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Title: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: admiralducksauce on October 17, 2011, 08:54:56 PM
Like the subject says, do you allow Athletics as a close-combat defense skill, or do you require a Weapons or Fists roll*?

*Assuming there's no stunt involved that explicitly says "use Athletics to dodge swords".
Title: Re: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: Vairelome on October 17, 2011, 09:00:37 PM
Yes?  Why wouldn't you?  Athletics is explicitly valid for both melee-range and extended-range defense against physical attacks by the RAW; a stunt like the one you suggest would be thoroughly redundant.
Title: Re: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: UmbraLux on October 17, 2011, 09:00:59 PM
Athletics is the default for dodging.  See the Dodging trapping on YS121.
Title: Re: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: admiralducksauce on October 17, 2011, 09:09:51 PM
Huh.  How about that.  For some reason my brain had locked onto Athletics only working on ranged defense and Weapons/Fists being used for melee defense.

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: Dravokian on October 18, 2011, 02:07:56 PM
I allow parries to be made with weapons or fists but they have to take a stunt to do it. Effectively allowing them to trade the dodge trapping over to a different skill.
Title: Re: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: DFJunkie on October 18, 2011, 03:06:51 PM
I allow parries to be made with weapons or fists but they have to take a stunt to do it. Effectively allowing them to trade the dodge trapping over to a different skill.
Wait, I thought that you could explicitly use fists to defend against fists, and weapons to defend against fists or weapons.  Did I mistakenly import something from SoTC without meaning to?
Title: Re: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: Dravokian on October 18, 2011, 04:37:59 PM
i wrote in parries but i meant to type dodges... with the stunt you can dodge spells, bullets, and blades with your hands or weps... kinda like deflecting bullets and the like. I believe parries can be made as you stated without the stunt but the stunt allows all default dodging to be made with a different skill.
Title: Re: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: Tedronai on October 18, 2011, 05:55:21 PM
there is a 'canon' stunt to do that for fists, the only 'houserule' is to allow weapons an equivalent stunt
Title: Re: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: DFJunkie on October 18, 2011, 06:00:33 PM
Ah, okay. 

I always thought that was kind of a no-brainer stunt.  If we assume that sprinting allows you to avoid bullets and blasts of flame it's a pretty small leap to allow it for people who know fencing, kung fu, or the like.

Personally I wouldn't even explain it as a parry, just that your training in [whatever] included enough foot work and positioning that you can use [whatever] as a universal dodge.
Title: Re: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: sinker on October 18, 2011, 06:05:32 PM
That's pretty much what the stunt says. Hell, it's called footwork.
Title: Re: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: DFJunkie on October 18, 2011, 06:09:05 PM
That's pretty much what the stunt says. Hell, it's called footwork.

Heh, good point.  I knew I should shut up while I don't have the books.
Title: Re: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: computerking on October 19, 2011, 05:22:32 PM
Heh, good point.  I knew I should shut up while I don't have the books.
That one's not from the books, it's a custom stunt here on the boards.
Title: Re: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: Tedronai on October 19, 2011, 05:27:52 PM
Footwork is on YS152.
Title: Re: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: polkaneverdies on October 19, 2011, 05:50:50 PM
The fists version is in YS. The weapons version is on the custom list and I accidentally gave it the same name as the fists version. So you are both correct.
Title: Re: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: Sanctaphrax on October 19, 2011, 06:01:25 PM
I thought that the identical name was intentional. I like it the way it is.
Title: Re: Do people allow Athletics as a melee/close-combat defense?
Post by: polkaneverdies on October 19, 2011, 06:28:11 PM
Let's go with it was a well thought out plan on my part then. ;)