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The Dresden Files => DFRPG => Topic started by: MacShidhe on February 04, 2011, 08:45:13 PM
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Hi All,
I have a plenty of examples of True Love (John 15:13) and True Courage (House Malvora is advised to avoid fire fighters, police officers, returning veterans, and Gurkhas) but I'm having trouble thinking of examples of True Hope. May I ask for some examples?
I apologize if this has been brought up before on these boards.
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Huh. You're right, nothing immediately jumps to mind. Maybe just declare that it's roughly equivalent to True Faith? (Though, to be fair there, I could see some interpretations of hope vs. faith that would preclude both existing within a single individual...)
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I suppose the eternal optimist who believes that with enough effort tomorrow can definatly be better than today.
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Richard Simmons!
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Children. Children have Hope.
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The Unbroken Prisoner. Someone who has seen the depths they could sink to, and understands real despair, but turns away from it nonetheless.
Much like I don't think one could have True Courage without knowing fear, at least in my opinion.
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The Unbroken Prisoner. Someone who has seen the depths they could sink to, and understands real despair, but turns away from it nonetheless.
Much like I don't think one could have True Courage without knowing fear, at least in my opinion.
John Sheridan: You just have to say "no, I won't" one more time than they can say "yes, you will".
John Sheridan: You know, it's funny, I was thinking about what you said, that the preeminent truth of our age is that you cannot fight the system. But if, as you say, the truth is fluid, that the truth is subjective, then maybe you can fight the system. As long as just one person refuses to be broken, refuses to bow down.
Interrogator: But can you win?
John Sheridan: Every time I say "no."
Something like that?
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The Unbroken Prisoner. Someone who has seen the depths they could sink to, and understands real despair, but turns away from it nonetheless.
Mr Mandela
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personally the "True Hope" thing just doesn't make sense to me and I think it's kind of stupid. In my games, I run it as True Faith making true believers slightly more powerful if only for a single enemy (or potential friend) but still. True Faith just works better for it, imo.
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What about brand new parents?
Pregnant women may be a no-no for vampies allergic to hope too.
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ME. The eternal optimist. Everyone and everything can improve if we try.
personally the "True Hope" thing just doesn't make sense to me and I think it's kind of stupid. In my games, I run it as True Faith making true believers slightly more powerful if only for a single enemy (or potential friend) but still. True Faith just works better for it, imo.
I think that your on the right track here. A good amount of people with True Faith would be in the same category as far as I see it. Try imagining some people with the same personality, just without faith in the picture.
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Something like that?
Yes.
This also has the side effect of being able to be used much, much easier for dramatic effect.
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Blue Lanterns
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Blue Lanterns
??? Care to elaborate?
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The Blue lantern Corp from DC (yes flexing my geek muscle lol)
green lanterns run off Will
Blue power rings run off Hope
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The Blue lantern Corp from DC (yes flexing my geek muscle lol)
green lanterns run off Will
Blue power rings run off Hope
And last I checked there were like six of them in the universe, right?
Mind you, I only get the TPBs and so am only read up to the first collection of Brightest Day. If they find the planet Hopulon-8 in the next part of the story arc, I will stand corrected. :)
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The Blue lantern Corp from DC (yes flexing my geek muscle lol)
green lanterns run off Will
Blue power rings run off Hope
Superman is probably just as good an example. In fact, in the Dresdenverse, I'd be tempted to say that Superman's symbol might qualify. He's one of the top-five most recognized fictional characters on the planet, and I think hope in general is strongly tied to the character. Belief is power in DV, right?
If you don't have Superman, then President Obama would probably work too, but he's harder to get a hold of.
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I'd agree with a previous poster. True Hope is, at the least, one who had a chance to fall to despair and resisted.
Another option, instead of or in addition to the above, is one who spreads that hope - who has helped another resist despair. That'd fit the outwardly-oriented type if emotion I recall the book favoring.