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OK, interesting.  What browser is everyone using?  I'm use Firefox almost exclusively when Im here, though occasionally it will be via Chrome.

I.E. for a long time, then Firefox. Happens on both.

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I get this same behavior.  Ive just gotten in the habit of going to the bathroom or something after I post a new thread, letting it spin its wheels for a bit, then close the tab and check the main index.  Sure enough it's always been posted, but it never actually figures it out in original window

You can actually see it basically immediately. Any new topic I make has never loaded on the initial page, not once. But open up another tab and go to the board, sure enough its right there. Doesn't even take minutes, I could hit post, refresh the second tab and it would be there. I always leave the initial tab open just in case but this has been going on since the first topic I ever made.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Skin Game Interview gathering topic
« on: September 29, 2015, 01:47:57 PM »
Interview with the guys who created the Dresden Files LARP game published June 5th

Some quick notes on this one:  @ 19:35 he says he thinks we will get to see some Jotunns in the next book.  He also mentions that the ideryaren (I'm sure that's a hideous misspelling) will be stoked to take them on.

Einherjar

There's an E in her jar, dunno how it got there :P

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« on: September 22, 2015, 11:26:34 PM »
So, the AMA is still in progress, but we got this answered...sort of:

Additionally:

Quote from: jimbutcher
Dracula was his half-human child, who naturally had enormous paternal issues, and wound up creating himself as the first Black Court Vampire in an effort to win his father's approval.

So perhaps if the historical timeline follows the DV, the Black Court is about 500+ years old...the youngest of the Vampiric Courts in all likelihood.

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The part where Harry felt at home at Mac's from the first time he set foot there struck me as similar to his bit of prescient intuition when on Demonreach during small favor. Considering all the roles it plays in his life that you point out, and all the time he spends there between books thats not too unreasonable of a watsonian explanation.

I doubt that mac is going to be the white god or christ though: too much controversy.

Nor do I. That particular end bit was more of a fun little add on lineage potential dealing with the etymology of his name coinciding with a lesser known parable in the bible that involved said White Christ.

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You could probably try making a case based on Papa Raith being infected and that getting passed to her via feeding, but I think it's pretty clear that Lara isn't being controlled.  WN makes no sense if Nemesis has hooks in her.

Neither does Turn Coat.

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she's Lord Raith's Oldest living child and has been his Right Hand for most of her life. All it took was an opportunity and time to build her own empire. You don't need Nemesis for that. Any WCV can be damn scary, the Queen of all of them with her smarts, knowledge and business acumen -  if she ran for President she'd win by a landslide. Now that is truly major league damn scary.

You don't have to convince me, i'm just pointing out the likely culprit for that idea in the first place.

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Uh, what?

Ten bucks says the "Lara's gotten scary" bit from Thomas as the culprit for this line of thought.

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It's the "Thrice I ask" that leads me to lean toward the "Sharkface is Cowl" theory.  Basically, Sharkface is what you get when a possessed mortal uses too much Outisder power --  he becomes a pure host to the Outsider.  Would also go toward explaining where Cowl was during the final Outsider-based showdown at the end of CD.

The only real downside of the theory is that this means we probably won't ever see "normal" Cowl again.

Also, and I truly don't remember it occurring, but the 'Thrice I ask and done' has pretty much only worked on the 'full' for lack of a better word supernatural right? When it was introduced it was heavily Fae based because something spoken three times bound them to that obligation. I know Harry for instance in his conversation with Cowl used it...'Thrice I say and done, bite me' or something to that effect...but has it ever been used on another mortal to compel them to answer? And does it being used on Sharkface really point to Cowl being him now since, in essence, its still just a supernatural being comporting to this behavior at the end of the day even if Cowl is somewhere in there?

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@EG I prefer to think of Harry as the choosing one instead lol. It's possible, because most of Harry is the chosen one is perception, that Harry won't be the central hero, for the end at all, but more akin to the immenence Gris, the power behind the hero. He certainly managed to do a number on butters. Impact will and the alpha's, Molly, Murphy, and indirectly but to an even greater degree, Thomas. Mmm pure WAG but what if
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I could live with it but I just don't see it being the case. Rather Harry's 'choosing' ultimately ends up surrounding himself with allies, resources and abilities for anytime he ultimately needs them for his task as much as it does put them into play in general.

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Yeah, I may hate the Chosen One trope especially when it facilitates the notion that Harry's been followed or manipulated his whole life. But I accept or recognize when the signs point that way...or at least might point that way...and Mac is far less offensive because he isn't there from the outset, just from the time in Chicago. And his influence, while highly evident, is far more passive than the majority of the other theories like Margaret, Justin, Raith and the Starborn plan or Mab being there all the while and so on. Not that they don't have validity just that its much less 'this is out savior!' and more 'this kid seems interesting, lets keep an eye on him'.

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I think the "knights" referenced by the questioner were KotCs, not Knights of the Fae Courts. Murphy and Susan are both examples of KotC that hold a sword for a short time; both during the Chichen Itza assault (yes, I'm saying Murphy has already been a KotC, a 'one knight stand' so to speak :) ). Rapid changeover in KotCs doesn't, to me, provide Harry any 'out' from his position.

The question references Winter directly so idk where you get the idea that its not talking about the Fae Knights. Jim may have answered regarding the KoTC but that seems more like a misunderstanding on the questioner's part when he references what the author had said before and Jim just auto corrected that notion in his answer, or he misunderstood the question.

In that WoJ Jim is specifically talking about both Knights of the Coin and the Fae Court Knights, though the court knights are typically a "lifetime" endeavor. i.e. they generally don't live long.

And he's working from my simple idea that if Mac got an "out" as a starborn, the same option would possibly be available to Harry. I think the choice hasn't presented itself yet, but I do think it's coming, of course, no choice is without consequence, and it will most definitely prey on Harry's personal nobility and sense of honor.

You referenced the WOJ about Starborn to support your idea that Mac was also one, I provided it for you simply to add to your post if you wanted...my issue with that idea is that you attribute the evidence by asking who exactly would be able to be 'out' and then give that ability to a Starborn. And since we know Harry is a Starborn I think that is not a very strong argument because it pre-supposed that Harry will have the same ability to be 'out' because he is a Starborn (intentionally or not that's how the idea is presented). And I think that from a Doylist view that would be far too easy an out for Harry and Jim would never allow it, and from a Watsonian view it is unsupported in the story because, by your model, a Starborn who is 'out' was very much brought back in, being attacked, kidnapped and shot. That at the end of the day him deciding to 'not' be a Starborn for all intents and purposes didn't do anything to keep him uninvolved. That was my only quibble.

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I think you're confusing two posters, cause I haven't really approached much of what you've attributed to me, but... ok.

Hmm...yeah, I meant to quote on the second part Xero...my bad.

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I think Arjan has something there. Even Sharkface was reluctant to enter Mac's Pub. Call it what you will, but Mac's has always been a Safe Haven, up until the time Mac was kidnapped.

That's like declaring war on Switzerland by kidnapping Simonetta Sommaruga.

Reluctant is a strong word. It implies Sharkface was somehow trying to act deferential to Mac's while in the next breath noting that he DOES attack the bar and in fact does enter it to attack some more. So I don't see much reason to call it reluctance. On top of which, by his own admission, the scene at Mac's was not really Arjan's point anyway, it was his presence on the island.

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*raspberry*

Meh, Spatial-Temporal dimensions aren't enough to cover it IMO.  I prefer the theories where Demonreach is connected across the "spectrum" of realities/dimensions.  But to communicate that requires more than hyphens.

Truly what it needs is...


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