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Title: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 21, 2017, 10:57:44 AM
 Thomas is still alive and the new King of the WCV. Lara has been killed. Justine's status is iffy.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: exartiem on November 21, 2017, 01:27:51 PM
I had the theory once that Thomas would become the new wielder of Amoraccius.  That the sword would burn his demon out and he and Justine would become the new Michael and Charity.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Kindler on November 21, 2017, 02:18:44 PM
I see Thomas dismantling the White Court hierarchy—eliminating the Skavis and Malvoras (Malvori? Malvorae?) Pain and fear are pretty gross things to feed on, and through some kind of Machiavellian schemes, Thomas guts them.

Or maybe he pulls a Monsters, Inc. and gets all the White Court vamps to feed on joy, so they turn into the biggest philanthropic organization in the country! (Because that's going to happen).

I've heard the idea of him becoming a Knight of the Cross, and I'm iffy on it. It'd be cool enough if it happened, but I think that you need to be human, and Thomas isn't. Maybe Harry can figure out a way to exorcise his Demon or something first, but I don't think a Sword of the Cross could just purify him or something.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Ananda on November 22, 2017, 12:15:06 AM
Thomas and Justine are a very creepy, codependent couple. And, Thomas is like a nerdy guy’s idea of a cool guy.

Maybe Thomas and Eb will kill each other in the next book. Thomas will kill him with his sex vampire moves and Eb will level his death curse. And, without her codependent anchor, Justine will go insane and drown like Ophelia. Now I write this, I’m positive it will happen just so!
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 22, 2017, 02:00:18 AM
Thomas and Justine are a very creepy, codependent couple. And, Thomas is like a nerdy guy’s idea of a cool guy.

Maybe Thomas and Eb will kill each other in the next book. Thomas will kill him with his sex vampire moves and Eb will level his death curse. And, without her codependent anchor, Justine will go insane and drown like Ophelia. Now I write this, I’m positive it will happen just so!
Like comic books, the Dresden files is a series by a nerd about a super-powered nerd that has a heavy nerd following that understand and respect the fictional nerd's action and mentality. Oh, and Thomas has as much chance of dropping Eb as I have of finding Salma Hayek in my bed with a note from wife saying "Have fun."
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Ananda on November 23, 2017, 05:07:09 AM
Oh, and Thomas has as much chance of dropping Eb as I have of finding Salma Hayek in my bed with a note from wife saying "Have fun."
;D
I’d write that note for my husband if Salma was into it. It’s not like he’d leave me for her. She’s way too short. :P
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 23, 2017, 09:42:51 AM
I would leave my wife for Salma either; but, I do think my wife would leave me for Colin Firth or the guy that played Sawyer on "Lost."
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Arjan on November 24, 2017, 01:40:08 PM
;D
I’d write that note for my husband if Salma was into it. It’s not like he’d leave me for her. She’s way too short. :P
Oh no, my wife would kill her and then everything would go to hell....
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Ananda on November 25, 2017, 12:02:22 PM
Oh no, my wife would kill her and then everything would go to hell....
You guys are so funny.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Arjan on November 25, 2017, 12:37:56 PM
You guys are so funny.
She touched my bum today and when I told her she was the only one who was allowed to do so she told me "better so because I would tear her arm off"  :)
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 26, 2017, 01:03:24 AM
I don't get enough bum touching. :'(
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Snark Knight on November 26, 2017, 04:39:57 PM
I've heard the idea of him becoming a Knight of the Cross, and I'm iffy on it. It'd be cool enough if it happened, but I think that you need to be human, and Thomas isn't.

Mab said Thomas being in (true) love made him "mortal enough" to work as a Winter Knight, so I don't think species is that much of a restriction.

I don't think he's the personality type for it, though. Look at the number of times he's suggested Harry go take a vacation away from Chicago rather than confront some dangerous situation. He's more than willing to face danger to protect the people he cares about, but he's not as inclined to get involved when it's about strangers.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on November 27, 2017, 04:13:00 PM
I don't get enough bum touching. :'(

Monogamists are weird.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 27, 2017, 04:24:05 PM
Being a monogamist doesn't make me weird; being myself makes me weird. Being monogamist just makes me a masochist.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Arjan on November 27, 2017, 05:49:25 PM
Monogamists are weird.
It is all about regulating bum touching rights.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Kindler on November 27, 2017, 06:58:03 PM
Mab said Thomas being in (true) love made him "mortal enough" to work as a Winter Knight, so I don't think species is that much of a restriction.

I don't think he's the personality type for it, though. Look at the number of times he's suggested Harry go take a vacation away from Chicago rather than confront some dangerous situation. He's more than willing to face danger to protect the people he cares about, but he's not as inclined to get involved when it's about strangers.

I draw a distinction between "mortal" and "human." Thomas isn't a human, but he's very, very similar—human-adjacent, if you will.

Regardless, I agree that Thomas's personality doesn't lend itself well to him being a Knight anyway. Aside from his semi-selfish nature, he's way too susceptible to temptation, including wrath. We've seen how well that works out with both Murphy and Harry earlier in the series. In fact, I can pretty much see Thomas trying to use the Sword for treachery and breaking it, precisely how Harry did in Grave Peril.

Maybe he could use it temporarily, during the BAT—I could see something like Murphy's Changes Chichen Itza Charge, but not on a permanent basis.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Rasins on November 28, 2017, 06:35:52 PM
I'll be surprised if Thomas ever carries the sword again.  Been there, done that.

As to the sword burning out his demon and he and Justine becoming the new Michael and Charity .. no way.  His life view is far too different for that.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Kindler on November 28, 2017, 06:38:07 PM
I'll be surprised if Thomas ever carries the sword again.  Been there, done that.

As to the sword burning out his demon and he and Justine becoming the new Michael and Charity .. no way.  His life view is far too different for that.

When did Thomas carry the Sword?
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 28, 2017, 06:59:39 PM
I think during Changes.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Rasins on November 28, 2017, 07:09:16 PM
Nope, you're right.  I mis-remembered.  Thought He'd carried it already.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Rasins on November 28, 2017, 07:11:35 PM
I think during Changes.

Susan had amoracchius and Murphy had Esperacchius.

And of course Sonya still had Fidelacchius
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 28, 2017, 07:33:50 PM
My bad. Brain no work good.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Kindler on November 29, 2017, 02:15:17 PM
Okay, good. I thought I had missed it in one of the Brief Cases shorts I haven't read.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 29, 2017, 10:50:45 PM
Thomas hasn't been too active in recent short stories.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on November 30, 2017, 02:17:19 AM
Thomas hasn't been too active in recent short stories.

His arc feels pretty much resolved to me, fwiw.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 30, 2017, 09:12:12 AM
I would say that Butcher still has plans for Thomas. Maybe as the future Lord Raith but still being managed by Lara.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Arjan on November 30, 2017, 05:49:21 PM
There must be some woj about memories Thomas has about their mother which might become important
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 30, 2017, 10:32:09 PM
I just figure if Big Daddy is losing his stuff then maybe Lara would want little brother to step up as pseudo-boss.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Arjan on November 30, 2017, 10:40:17 PM
I just figure if Big Daddy is losing his stuff then maybe Lara would want little brother to step up as pseudo-boss.
She has a whole bunch of sisters who are probably more suitable.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: wardenferry419 on November 30, 2017, 10:50:51 PM
But Thomas would be more manageable due to Lara hold on Justine. Her sister's don't have that point of vulnerability.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on December 01, 2017, 12:17:31 AM
I just figure if Big Daddy is losing his stuff then maybe Lara would want little brother to step up as pseudo-boss.

Considering that Lord R is not always in Chicago and seems to be doing perfectly fine at passing for head of the White Court without needing Lara to stand beside him with her hand up the back of his shirt, I suspect that rumours of his incapacity are non-trivially exaggerated.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 01, 2017, 12:43:22 AM
I can't recall if it is WOJ or rumor. But, I can see it as a possibility, not an absolute truth, merely a possibility.
Title: Re: Thomas after the BAT
Post by: Arjan on December 01, 2017, 06:02:22 AM
Considering that Lord R is not always in Chicago and seems to be doing perfectly fine at passing for head of the White Court without needing Lara to stand beside him with her hand up the back of his shirt, I suspect that rumours of his incapacity are non-trivially exaggerated.
I assume Lara knows what she is doing. At the end Lord Raith is as vulnerable as any human if she takes care to manage him properly.