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So I strongly distrust the idea that Margaret was just a misguided but well-intentioned idealist.  Maybe it started out that way...

In the history of the world you will find that most of the murderous dictators and religious fanatics who are responsible for the death of millions started out as well-intentioned idealists.  Now you can argue about what exactly their ideals were, but there it is. 

In the Sixties, the anti-war movement was filled with well-intentioned idealists, most of them remained that way, others got splintered off into violent groups such as the Weathermen, while most took drugs, some got into the business of dealing drugs big time. 

The point I am getting to, is we know Margaret LeFay daughter of Eb, had a bit of a strict upbringing and apprenticeship, Eb admits to pushing her too far and hints at inflexibility on his part, and his daughter ran away.  Luccio hints and even the WC has dropped some hints that Margaret didn't care for the White Council system, too many constraints in her opinion, her youngest son shared some of those beliefs.  It is easy for someone angry, young, idealistic, full of herself [arrogant as only the young can be] like Margaret LeFay was,to get led astray or corrupted by someone older more powerful, like Nick would be perfect to take up her mentorship, then someone like the handsome urbane Lord Raith..  She'd even have a child by him, but in the end, Maggie LeFay found that she valued her own free will more, and Lord Raith found that he could never fully enthrall her to his will.  She escaped, eventually hooked up with Malcom a truly good vanilla human, from his example, realized with horror what she had helped in her angry idealism to unleash, so she devised a plan to counter it, that plan was to conceive a child under a special alinement of the stars with a truly good man, that child was Harry.

It could be that she did help to found the Black Council, but I suspect they have been around as long as the White Council.

I think that I may also have come up with a motive for why Malcom Dresden was murdered.  He was the only one who knew the full story of the how and the why of Margaret LeFay's redemption.  Only Malcom had the first hand knowledge, others had first hand knowledge only of her rebellion and her evil period, this is most of what has been passed on to Harry.  Even his grandfather, who wouldn't even tell Harry he was his grandfather, could have told him a heck of a lot about his mother, but didn't. Out of fear of what the knowledge might do to Harry maybe, or because nobody but Malcom knew the full story.

That full story would help erase doubt in Harry about his mother, make him less easy to lead astray by others, so Malcom had to die.  What is interesting, is Harry himself doesn't quite get the importance of knowing that part of the story, otherwise he would have asked Lea more about it, instead he pressed her to tell him who murdered him. Something he knew she really wasn't going to be allowed to tell him.
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OK, Chaunzoggoroth is a demonic entity, and as such by definition untrustworthy.  Still, the only sucker bait it has to offer practitioners to summon it is useful truthful information.  So lying is highly risky, it needs a reputation for truthfulness to do its damage.  I suspect the only lie it told Harry was about St. Patrick being the source of the loup-garou curse.  For that, it suddenly switched from direct declarative statements to second-hand comments, "It is said..." etc.

I doubt he was telling a lie about any of it, what he was doing was putting bait on a hook to try and catch Harry.  What better bait than to tempt Harry with the full story of what happened to his mother and father?  Harry almost was willing to give up his full name for that, but not quite. 

Just as a side note, old Chez didn't have Harry's full name, wouldn't, unless Harry gave it to him, in contrast both Uriel and the Angel of Death had not only Harry's full name, but all the inflections needed to hold power over him.

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Oooh, first thought on hearing Fitz's name was that means bastard (I only know from a different series FitzChivalry as a name) but didn't give any thought to it. Ooooh new SotC theory, good one guys. Or Hendrick's bastard child  :D

Yes, fitz does mean bastard, my husband's aunts were big into genealogy, and my husband was waving a coat of arms around smugly but then I pointed out the "fitz" part of the name on it and what it meant. 
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To me that is telling me that she agreed to what he was doing, earlier she'd said she didn't think she could do it, she couldn't feel her hands, she needed his help.  Though he'd given her the "ammo" to change, she still, in the little bit of sanity she had left, was giving her consent right there, telling him it was ok (at least to this reader).  Maybe she knew what he had done and just wanted to help him finish it, knowing how hard it would be for him, because she knew him so well.  She wanted him to save their daughter, and to her, at least in that point of time, it didn't matter how.

In the Dresdenworld, oh yeah anything is possible.. Or it could simply be a shortened version of Fitzgerald given as a nick name.  I saw a movie once called "The Luck of the Irish,"  the hero's last name was Fitzgerald, everyone called him "Fitz."

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Yeah, that bit really bugged me too! In Death Masks as well, Mort was described as "...A dumpy, balding man in his late forties..." which also does not translate to "self-destructively obese." Could it be that Harry was just trying to be nice in his descriptions of him before, and that now that he's dead he doesn't care as much about the potential for offending someone with an honest description? Or maybe now that he's dead he's seeing and remembering things with less self delusion. (Of course that doesn't in any way cover the house changes, but whaddaya do?)

Here's another thing: Every person that Harry has encountered since he died seems to have become a sort of idealized version of themselves. Take a look at the descriptions of Carmichael and Captain Jack, as well as Mort. (Obviously, since we've never met Sir Stuart before we have nothing to compare him with.) It made sense to me when we were just dealing with the dead guys; you've got that whole frozen at 30 thing going on and all. But it seems like he's seeing Mort (and Mort's yard, and Mort's house and its furnishings) in idealized forms as well.

If it isn't just one huge continuity flub (and it seems as if it's much too big to be one) then I'm guessing it's a 'dead' thing.

LML

  No one has taken Harry's age into account when we first meet Mort.. Harry was still in his twenties, his body type runs to thin and runner, even if his diet was crap.  So he sees Mort though the unforgiving eyes of a twenty something year old, so being a little heavy is " "self-destructively obese." " to someone who has never gain an ounce.  The whole bald thing and trying to hide it to look younger etc may not be seen in a charitable manner by a twenty something wizard who might live to the age of 300 and beyond.  

Harry was pushing forty at the time of his death, that waist of his is now or was harder to maintain, and in the last two books before he died Harry is suddenly aware that he is no longer a kid..

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Display Case / Re: DISPROVE THIS
« on: June 01, 2010, 12:01:38 PM »
Molly. Is. Harry's. Mother.  :o :o :o :o :o


Oh ick... :o

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DF Books / Re: Did you discover the books because of the TV Show?
« on: October 18, 2009, 02:53:15 PM »

  I didn't know about the books because I read more pure science fiction than fantasy type novels.  I didn't look for many fantasy/wizard types because so many of them were unoriginal in my opinion.  The television series introduced me to Harry Dresden, then of course I had to read the books and was thrilled to find some really original work.  However one thing the television series did do better, the character of Bob..

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« on: August 03, 2009, 02:45:59 PM »
Just to clarify a touch. Yes and no. Harry finds out in Blood Rites, but Thomas had already known since before they met in Grave Peril.

 Yeah, I believe that Maggie told him, and also instructed him to look out for his little brother.  Which he has, ever since he and Harry met.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« on: July 18, 2009, 12:31:34 PM »
Guys, if you want to talk about cat lifespans, just ask, and I'll happily split off a thread for you.  Otherwise, try to keep the Timeline thread free of chit-chat.  Thanks!

 Sorry, what started this is if the series goes on another ten or thirteen years, how old will Mister be? Or will he die?  So it does have to do with the timeline sort of..

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« on: July 16, 2009, 03:37:52 AM »
The oldest cat I've met was 25, and I've known several who were in their twenties.  I believe the world record is something like 38 years old.  Remember, age itself isn't a disease, it just increases the likelihood of various diseases occurring.  If a cat dodges the bullets of kidney disease, diabetes, hyperthyroidism, and arthritis, they can be quite active for a lot longer than you'd think.

Or maybe he's just part kneazel... ;-)

  I recently lost my beloved old cat, she lived to be 19..

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Display Case / Re: Things Harry Dresden Is No Longer Allowed to Do
« on: May 11, 2009, 10:36:14 PM »


 Sell ice cubes to Mab..

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« on: April 20, 2009, 01:53:21 PM »
Something that might be worth adding to the timeline, but its a little different from the rest since its rather speculative. 
Jim has said that he intends to do 20 Dresden books followed by an apocalypse trilogy.  Well so far the books pace at between 1/2 and 1 1/2 years between books.  If they stay on pace that puts the Apocalypse going down at in about 5-14 years or 15-24 ASF with the average being at around 19 ASF.  its a pretty wide gap, I know, but its something we can be fairly sure is going to come around. 

Not sure its something that fits the timeline, but every time i get somebody new hooked on these books they always ask me if anyone knows how long its going to last ans such, so the whole 20 books + apocalypse trology  tends to come up a bunch

 Does that include short stories?  Because, if it doesn't , he is only half way though.. At the pace of one book a year or one and half years, that is another ten years, don't know if I will live that long..

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Calendar Event Discussion / Re: "Turn Coat" released April 7, 2009
« on: November 08, 2008, 06:29:08 PM »
"Turn Coat," eleventh book in The Dresden Files, is released April 7, 2009.

 Do we have any spoilers yet?  Or at least some book cover art to talk about?  Hi, guys been a while since I posted, I know.. But I still love Harry..

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DF Books / Re: Did you discover the books because of the TV Show?
« on: August 17, 2007, 02:55:37 AM »
This is, of course, par for the course regarding Sci-Fi's mind-numbing skill in defecating on its own dinner plate.

If something works, it has (if they're lucky) one half-season in which to be judged as worth keeping...sometimes, they have a show that inspires loyalty of a size not seen since Trek (Farscape/Stargate SG-1, anyone?), and they STILL cancel it!!!

Why?  Because several sources have said that Sci-Fi's CEO positively HATES science-fiction; the decision to put wrestling on the Sci-Fi Channel was ranking right up there with offering Roseanne Barr a singing gig!  Wrestling and Sci-Fi go together like a peanut-butter and battery-acid sandwich; truly, the demented vision of someone who hasn't the intellect of a lobotomized coconut!

  I had heard that too, may I ask what in the hell is a CEO who hates science fiction doing running a scifi channe?  Or was it part of some packaged deal?

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DF Books / Re: Did you discover the books because of the TV Show?
« on: August 07, 2007, 12:58:53 PM »

   Loved the series, wouldn't rest till I got all the books and have been reading them non stop.. Just finished White Nights and now have started over again with Storm Front.. There are lots of pieces to the puzzle and I do not want to miss them.

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