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DF Spoilers / Re: Lara and Harry
« on: March 05, 2024, 03:34:16 PM »
Thats a great image. Genuinely laughed.
But that seems like a Mab thing to do.

  Well, Lara has a couple of things working in her favor, her lifespan for starters, actually she is way older than Harry. So she isn't going to become an old lady while Harry is still in his prime.  Her feeding off of his emotions will help keep the Winter Knight's mantel in check so Harry doesn't have to keep killing himself with exercise to drain off the adrenaline.  The negatives are of course Eb and the White Council isn't going to be too happy about such a hook up.
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More a couple of days actually. Their first hookup and only was in PT and she was dead in BG. They were going to get together after Changes, but Harry caught a case of dead.
Yeah, I wasn't sure of how long exactly so I decided to err on giving them more time hooking up than less. ;)

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DF Spoilers / Re: Lara and Harry
« on: March 04, 2024, 07:20:15 PM »
Unless Murphy is going to return very soon, I hope Harry does lose that protection from Murphy.

Barring a book with the White court as the primary antagonists, that protection is not a good thing. Maintaining that protection means that Harry remains celibate. While I don't want him to go wild, give the man some outlet for stress relief. A healthy sex life could be the key to controlling the Winter Knight mantle.

Poor Harry, he never has been into casual sex, and steady ladies have been few and far between, so few outlets..  After Susan left him I think he went about five years protected until Luccio came along, that was short lived.. Come to think of it the time period that he actually had sex with Murphy was only a few months at most before she died. 

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DF Spoilers / Re: Does Thomas get a free pass?
« on: March 03, 2024, 05:37:30 AM »
No, it doesn't give you a "free pass."
But we have seen that the Sartalves really, really value their children...

If Thomas could somehow prove that he intentionally "missed" Etri (could have killed him but didn't) in an action of an Outsider-war and in protection of his child... then they might be willing to accept weregild.  Not exactly happy about it, but they could see how they might be driven to similar extremity by a similar threat to their own child(ren).

Maybe...
(I admit it's a stretch).
Maybe Harry could hire Maximillian Valerious to plead the case...?

Actually I could see him doing that and may be the very reason he was introduced in that short story.  Thomas did commit murder, regardless of his motives for doing it. However his motives might be considered mitigating enough that a great lawyer such as Maximillian Valerious might be able to arrange a plea deal with the Sartalves where time served on Demonreach and a wereguild might be accepted.  However then how much would they demand?  I can see the Raiths being made bankrupt by the amount demanded, setting off a power struggle in the White Court.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Gatekeeper
« on: March 01, 2024, 10:03:53 PM »
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I strongly suspect that two wizards' relative "apparent ages" are a very-poor way to figure out which is actually the elder of the two.

  When I said that I wasn't thinking in those terms.. I used Eb as an example because we all have a pretty good idea of his age, as in 300 or so years.  Given the time Rashid has spent in the Nevernever compared to the "real world" time, since he is obviously a mature wizard, not a young one or even middle aged one, I compared his age to be approximately that of Eb i.e. 300 to 350 real world years..  I wasn't in any way judging who was the older or younger of the two.

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DF Spoilers / Re: How Murphy could return to the Dresden Files
« on: March 01, 2024, 09:52:20 PM »
IMO it has nothing to do with Odin. The Swords (or at least their true purpose) were never Murphy's style.

She's great when fighting outright monsters like the Red Court, but... well, she was always about punishing the guilty as much as protecting the innocent. It's like she said to Harry in Skin Game:

"I don't want to save [Denarians]".

That is the core of the issue. And to her credit, she knows it- it's why she rejected the thing in the first place.

Which is at the core of why she managed to break the Sword of Faith.  Key word here is faith,she had all the faith in the world in her own judgement, but none apparently in the ultimate Judge.  She spoke out of both sides of her mouth when she said she couldn't return the Swords to the appointed custodian of them, Harry, because she feared that he'd screw up giving them out somehow and get them broken.. Why? Because deep down she didn't trust Harry after what had happened to him.  Meanwhile she kept the Swords because she believed she had better judgement than Harry.. Then after her little speech about why she couldn't be a Holy Knight, for fear of what it would do to the Sword.  She proceeded to desecrate the Sword of Faith by proclaiming it was for her to judge Nic,not  the Lord,then tried to kill him with it, and got it broken.  In a word, she's a bit of a hypocrite.. Maybe love does that or can do that to a person, but in my opinion Jim killed her off as a character long before she was actually killed off, beginning with Ghost Story when he made her a vigilante, he systematically stripped her of all the virtues and strength that made her a great character in my opinion..  Her abilities as a fighter, her great love story with Harry don't make up for all that she lost.

And I for one do not wish her back.

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DF Spoilers / Re: How Murphy could return to the Dresden Files
« on: February 29, 2024, 05:15:21 PM »
You assume that her being a "vanilla mortal" is what "all her fans" loved about her. I didn't. I loved her personality, attitude, style of fighting, looks and what she meant to other characters. And, yes, that may be changed somewhat if she comes back as a Valkyrie. But Harry has changed a ton over the last 17 books and I still love him. And Karrin also went through big changes through that time (including the Ghost Story hiccup, which I didn't love that much). Let's just see what Jim comes up with and then deal with it when it happens. As we do for all the characters who had stuff happen to them during all those books.

But that's the point, her style etc, as a vanilla mortal, it wasn't just the Ghost Story hiccup, her arrogance, she thought she knew more than God.  She went through big changes after she was booted off the police force, this fan didn't care for them much.. That's just my opinion, I found myself rolling my eyes every time she was on page towards the end..

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DF Spoilers / Re: Gatekeeper
« on: February 29, 2024, 01:31:36 PM »
Actually, the chances seem good, to me.

As mentioned, WoJ places Rashid operating -- as a very powerful wizard -- around 700AD.

IIRC, the Norse Gods were replaced by the Winterfae on the Outer Gates around 1000AD.

I also think it is very hard to guess what Rashid's real age is, remember he spends 90% or more of his time at the Gates in the Nevernever, time works differently there.  So it is possible that while he might be close to 2,000 years old hypothetically, because he has spent most of those years in the Nevernever, his age appears to be or close to Eb's age..   

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DF Spoilers / Re: Does Thomas get a free pass?
« on: February 28, 2024, 01:02:29 PM »
I know, but I'm just saying that, even if Thomas somehow makes it out of Demonreach in once peace, he'll have spent over a year minimum being psychically tortured by that point.

Like, that's probably more then sufficient for most people.

Is it? Sufficient for people maybe, but for politics of the supernatural?  It may not be.

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DF Spoilers / Re: How Murphy could return to the Dresden Files
« on: February 26, 2024, 09:43:27 PM »
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They were working on developing their mental defenses; the only way to do that is by defending against mental attacks.  The "win condition" was a specific mental image, nothing with mental controls or outside impulses.

Yes, but remember the main reason why the White Council has such crappy defenses against the likes of the Corpsetaker is
any training beyond the most rudimentary defense is forbidden.  So while technically Harry and Molly might not have been breaking one of the 7 Laws, the White Council, especially now might not see it that way.

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DF Spoilers / Re: How Murphy could return to the Dresden Files
« on: February 26, 2024, 01:33:08 PM »
I suspect that either raising Sue, or the horde of vengeful spectres that took down Bianca, counts as "raising the dead."

He already got away with a killing, when he took out Justin.

Only 5 more to go!!!   8)

Also skating on very thin ice when he and Molly sparred mentally..

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DF Spoilers / Re: Did Molly teleport
« on: February 24, 2024, 07:08:24 PM »
Mere physical escape was never the challenge.  She was a powerful WC mage, and one of the most-informed mortal waywalkers ever; she could have left any time she wanted to... if she had just wanted to.
The question is -- since Papa Raith apparently had years to work on her -- why wasn't she utterly enslaved to his will?  Murphy admitted that (a much weaker) Papa-Raith almost broke her, and that was in just the space of a few minutes.

  I don't think Papa Raith broke her, he didn't. I think she was so fed up with the White Council's antics and the whole "system,"
went along out of rebellion, she wouldn't have been the first nor the last to do so.. That is until she met someone who showed her
there was good in the world, Malcolm.  Murphy is or was an ordinary vanilla human, stronger than most, but still ordinary, a few minutes more and Lord Raith would have broken her... Margaret Lefay Dresden was no ordinary woman.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Does Thomas get a free pass?
« on: February 24, 2024, 06:22:13 PM »
Whether Thomas faces further punishment upon being cured and released from Demonreach is dependent on how clued in the Swartalves are about Nemesis.

If they're in the know, he may be let off by paying weregild. If not, then it will take significantly more to appease them. At the extreme and short of death, they may insist on Thomas's child being raised by them (Assuming said child can be saved and is free of Nemesis taint.)

All of that is true, I think it will be more of a question of what becomes of Thomas?  Even if the Swartalves understand and are satisfied with a weregild, what is the effect on Thomas?  Will he become fully human because the island somehow has separated
 out the Hunger Demon and imprisoned it?  Will Thomas still feel guilty?  Will he become obsessed with finding Justine?  What of their child? And what will Lara think or do about any of this?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Does Thomas get a free pass?
« on: February 24, 2024, 12:21:17 PM »
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I mean, Thomas is going to spend an indeterminate amount of time on Hell Island reliving everything he did to his victims. If anything, he's being overly-punished and anyone that finds out is gonna think that Dresden has absolutely zero chill.

Really?  At the end of the day regardless of his motive, he allegedly committed murder.  He hasn't had a trial yet, so his punishment hasn't been set.  Currently he is where he is to keep him alive until he can be put on trial.  And yes, Thomas has numerous victims, as a vampire he did kill.. Lara would call them kine, and Thomas is no different than any other predator, an argument can be made for that.  However they were also people, and his last kill had nothing to do with food to survive.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Does Thomas get a free pass?
« on: February 24, 2024, 02:44:58 AM »
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There is every sign that -- if Harry hadn't had the Spear to pull out at the last minute -- Ethniu and the Fomor would have won.

But without Ethniu would the Fomor even of had a chance? Or rather much of a chance?  She was their bad ass terror weapon with a very nasty eye, without her the Fomor were really quite run of the mill in the Dresdenverse. 

Funny how Harry stumbles into things, needing to face the Senior Council?  Make a bond with the island with no clue of the repercussion of what he is doing, wakes up a couple of books later to discover that he is Warden of a Prison of some of the worst monsters his world has ever seen... And also finds out that he has the power to incarcerate more monsters if need be with in range... Pretty handy for controlling a Titian running amuck.. Reluctantly goes down into the security vault of Hades because Mab owes Nic a favor, happens to find and recognize the Spear of Destiny and a couple of other useful trinkets, which were very useful in dealing with a very nasty Titian a book or so later.. Turns out it was Harry verses the Fomor and Harry verses the Titian, no Harry, the Fomor win.. However I don't think Harry realizes that just yet, at least not fully, but the White Council realizes it, that's what has them pooping their pants and wanting Harry dead.

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DF Spoilers / Re: How Murphy could return to the Dresden Files
« on: February 23, 2024, 08:13:27 PM »
I found it a little strange how Rudolph just seemed to disappear after his post-Murphy encounter with Dresden. I mean, he was pretty beaten up, both physically and mentally. And suddenly he’s just gone? Who helped him and why? Neither Sanya nor Butters did.

What if Rudolph’s killing Murphy was a “Mirror Mirror” action. We’ve already been given hints of things that are never explained in prior books, such as Little Chicago suddenly being fixed before Harry used it the first time. Another was that drive-by accident whose perpetrators were never explained. Butcher has already hinted that eventually Harry will break all of the Council’s laws. What if - in order to stop the alt-Harry’s antics, he has to go back in time, and changes something such that Rudolph, or possibly alt-Rudolph- doesn’t kill Murphy. When Harry returns to the present timeline, Murphy is back, having never died. Her showing up again might also derail Mab’s plan for Harry to marry Lara.

But she may not be the Murphy that Harry loves, she could turn out to still be a cop, a hard nosed one at that.  Like the original Murphy, though she worked with Harry on cases, she was also quick to jump to conclusions and point the finger at Harry in at least two books.

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