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Title: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: eviladam on April 24, 2007, 05:35:19 AM
I'm really busy enough with my novel, but I have a comic project on the side. I was wondering if any one else dabbelled in that field. So far nothings happening with the comic. I keep having problems with my artists.
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: blgarver on April 24, 2007, 01:44:31 PM
I have really wanted to write a comic/graphic novel, but everything I come up with is cheesy and stupid.  I want to write a superhero story, but it's hard to come up with anything fresh.
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: StoryMask on April 26, 2007, 10:15:11 PM
I ordered 3 books on the subject from Amazon.com, should get them sometime next week. I'm thinking of turning some of my Seraph Hunters short stories into graphic novel like coloring pages that students can print out and color. My Seraph Hunters project is a blend of urban fantasy/supernatural/super hero genres. Example story: Easy Pickings at http://storymask.com/wordpress/?p=24

I'm in the middle of getting price quotes from artists at http://www.deviantart.com

Ben :)
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: eviladam on April 27, 2007, 02:06:25 AM
There are a lot of good artists specailising in comci stuff on digitalwebbing.com. you can run an add for them for free.
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: StoryMask on April 27, 2007, 03:35:38 AM
There are a lot of good artists specailising in comci stuff on digitalwebbing.com. you can run an add for them for free.

Thanks for the info., heading over to check it out.
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: eviladam on April 27, 2007, 01:18:21 PM
Not a problem. Just be warned there are some people there who don't speak english very well.  I had the most amazing artist, but he couldn't understand my scripts. Either that or he just didn't care what I wrote. Every time I'd send him something I'd get something completelly different back.
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: Wolfhowls on May 01, 2007, 03:07:20 AM
Thats the one problem I have writing a comic or graphic novel is finding a artist that can share the same vision.
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: eviladam on May 01, 2007, 06:00:18 AM
I demand samples. Then if I like what I see I give out sample scripts. It's definentlly a tedious process. Why couldn't I be a fantastic artist? That would certainlly make things easier.
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: Wolfhowls on May 01, 2007, 07:36:14 AM
Ain't that the truth ...being able to draw would make crap easier
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: WonderandAwe on May 01, 2007, 03:14:04 PM
I always found the best way to deal with artists is to give them a great deal of creative control over what the comic looks like.  Give them a plot line, dialogue, and a basic character description and let them have control over the rest.  If it looks well done, then tell them good job and try to get it published.  Only nitpick when it something that has to do with the plot.  (Well, So and So always wears gloves because it is a symbol of his emotional distance from society). 

Artists, like writers, are very creative people.  They probably have projects on the back burner that they would rather do then be a slave to your creative vision.  If you let them have great creative control over the part of the comic they are responsible for creating then they will be more likely to stick around. 
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: King of De Nile on May 01, 2007, 03:34:31 PM
I always found the best way to deal with artists is to give them a great deal of creative control over what the comic looks like.  Give them a plot line, dialogue, and a basic character description and let them have control over the rest.  If it looks well done, then tell them good job and try to get it published.  Only nitpick when it something that has to do with the plot.  (Well, So and So always wears gloves because it is a symbol of his emotional distance from society). 

Isn't that how Marvel used to do it? I remeber hearing that's how Stan the Man kept so many projects going at once; by giving a large amount of creative control to the artists.
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: eviladam on May 01, 2007, 04:25:46 PM
See that's just not the way I work at all. My scripts are detailed panel for panel about just what I want. I use a lot of "camera angles" and panel layouts that I think helps the flow of the comic.
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: WonderandAwe on May 01, 2007, 04:36:38 PM
You might have to pay someone for drawing something like that.  :(   I know I would have issues if some artist was like "I need you to write out dialogue for my comic."  "Oh no,  that's not right.  The main character is very angry at them.  Oh but he doesn't curse.  Ever.  And I want you to put in something about..."  I can do it, but it would get tiring after a while. 
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: Wolfhowls on May 02, 2007, 06:30:32 AM
At one point I did have an artst but I got stationed in Germany so everything down the tubes. I had to write everything in great detail for me and a few times I had to call him to explain everything.
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: The Dread Pharaoh Roberts on May 04, 2007, 03:38:18 AM
I do illustration work but suck at plotting and storyline.  Anyone wanna collaborate?
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: eviladam on May 04, 2007, 04:57:44 AM
What kind of stuff do you do? I'm trying to find an artist for a horror themed comic that has a lot to do with werewolves, but mostlly in human form.
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: The Dread Pharaoh Roberts on May 04, 2007, 05:29:19 AM
I could prob'ly pull off werewolves.  I have kind of a comic-book style, lots of dark shadow and bright highlights when I work in black and white - which I mostly do as I'm not sure where my colors are at the moment.  I sometimes color my stuff in Photoshop.  My illustration style has been described as "brooding".

I do draw people as well as machines, but I have to work to get urban backgrounds to look right.  Drives me nuts sometimes, it does...

I also do childrens' illustrations, but that just doesn't sound right for your stuff. ;D
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: eviladam on May 09, 2007, 08:37:29 AM
I don't plan on a lot of urban back ground any way. The kind of stuff I'm planning works better in small towns, wooded areas that kind of thing. And black and white would probablly work best. I'm in love with all the black and white gore in walking dead.

Got any thing I could check out? Are you on deviantart?
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: The Dread Pharaoh Roberts on May 09, 2007, 01:27:19 PM
Why yes, yes I am ;D  Unfortunately, it's only a few things, and it's a pretty random assortment.  Check out the illustration for Restoration of Faith for my comic book style.

samurphy0320.deviantart.com
Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: eviladam on May 10, 2007, 08:32:35 AM
Oh wow. I love the Restoration of Faith picture. That's really great shading. I'll get back to you when I'm done with my script. I'm still working out a few details.

Title: Re: Any comic/graphic novel writers?
Post by: Weaselon on May 17, 2007, 09:07:19 AM
I've been doing an online comic for over 4 years now. I do all the writing, drawing, and coloring myself, so it can take me a while to post pages. Sadly, this means I'm probably never going to make a career out of my art, but it's for fun anyway.
It's a science fiction / superhero story and I've just recently started on my novelization project. I figured at the pace I'm drawing the huge story I have planned out, I'd be better off writing a book.

www.metatime.net/uk/ or www.drunkduck.com/The_Urban_Knight/ if anyone's interested.