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DF Spoilers / CRACK Theory. Winter Knight and Holy Knight.
« on: July 30, 2020, 05:23:56 AM »
So my crack theory is that the last time a Winter Knight and a Knight of the Cross worked together was Gilles de Rois (confirmed Winter Knight) and Joan of Arc.

Also of note Drakul and Dracula were running around at this point.

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DF Spoilers / Spoilers Peace Talks Zoo Day- Foo Dogs
« on: July 29, 2020, 07:35:38 AM »
So Harry offers Thomas his own Foo Dog and he said he'd consider it.

What about Mouses Shadow in Zoo Day, Thomas is a tortured shadow in his own way, the Shadow has already been introduced, might be a good link and lead up later on.

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DF Spoilers / Spoilers: Peace Talks: Cubs Curse
« on: July 20, 2020, 08:34:48 AM »
Soo a couple months back someone made a thread about how the Chicago Cubs were doing well for once and speculated why.

Well
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DF Spoilers / Spoilers: Different Names and Identities.
« on: July 18, 2020, 11:00:32 PM »
Vadderung was Beowulf and Kringle. I wonder if he feels guilty about Vikings raiding, though then again I guess Uriel has regrets about Christianity's bloody past enough that Saladin was a KotC.

Anyway got me thinking of other names, hats and yes MANTLES.

Seen a theory going round that Ferrovax might also be Hades and the Erlking.

So Mab was most likely Nimue.

Personally think Titania was Morgana.

Ethniu was celtic goddess which fits with Formorians, but she's called a Titan. The Last Titan. Does she have a Greek equivalent?

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DF Spoilers / Supernatural Historical Wars.
« on: June 28, 2020, 11:31:57 AM »
So in terms of wars in history. Saladin was a Knight of the Cross, Ebenezar, LTW and The Merlin were involved in the Seven Years War. Simon Pietrovich caused/ was involved in the Russian Revolution. We know WW1 was Kemmler, his disciples and allies, We know Klaus the Toymaker fought Nazi's in WW2 and that Luccio doubted how evil Nazi's were, Necro Bob had a defence set up reminiscent of the Nazi's, Kemmlers was killed in the 60s by an all out White Council attack, It's implied both Michael and Marcone were in Vietnam.

Jim has understandably stayed away from 9/11, as much as possible but it's known White Council has a strict policy of not getting involved.

Is there any other historical wars with supernatural elements?

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DF Spoilers / Reread suggestions
« on: June 03, 2020, 02:23:51 AM »
Going through a full reread anything I should look out for?

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DF Spoilers / Small Favour reread question.
« on: June 03, 2020, 02:19:34 AM »
So rereading Small Favour Chapter 3 " a leather pouch made from the genital sac of i kid you not an actual African lion. It was a gift. Don't ask."

Where did that come from?

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DF Spoilers / Is Harry Senior Council Level?
« on: May 26, 2020, 09:17:30 AM »
Fairly Simple question.


Personally I think so, but honestly I've thought so since Changes, personal magic duel with Arianna Ortega who was around for millenia, ending 10 000 or so Red Court Vampires, including defeating the Lords of Outer Night.

Cold Days he leads the Wild Hunt and fights 2 youngest Queens and a Knight.

Skin Game defeats Hannah Ascher with ease.

Plus his allies, include Butters: Jedi Knight of the Cross, Molly: one youngest Fae Queen, Kringle/Vadderung, Mab, Leansidhe e.t.c.

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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Etherialist
« on: May 23, 2020, 06:54:05 AM »
What would be some other Etherialists quirks?

 Folly can't talk directly to anyone, Ferrus can't open doors, Madame is obsessive about manners.

I imagine theirs an Etherialist who only speaks in songs.

What would some other potential quirks?

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DF Spoilers / Peace Talks Trailer.
« on: March 24, 2020, 02:58:11 PM »
Damn that was better than I was expecting.

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Second question

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Third Question

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DF Spoilers / How to break the Lady's Mantles.
« on: February 26, 2020, 12:42:05 PM »
Sex with the Winter/Summer Knight of there respective courts. Mab says what the Mantle will do to defend itself. Winter Knight is part of the Winter Mantle as extensively talked about in Cold Days. Mantle can't defend against itself, would probably indulge in it.

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DF Spoilers / Marcone
« on: February 03, 2020, 01:00:24 AM »
Ok so admittedly I've been watching a couple of Michael Franzese's videos on youtube. Some first hand statistics he gives is that in 1986 he was cited as one of the top 50 mob bosses in America, by today he's the only one still alive.

So Marcone being on top for a couple of decades in real world is fairly unlikely. So I have a WAG, that Marcone in addition to positioning himself within the Accords, has managed to convince some of those human US factions we here about in the background to let him be the Unofficial Ambassador to the Supernatural factions.

It would secure his position as being all but impossible to prosecute, as he's too vital for the role he plays. Lucky Luciano and a few other Mob bosses had similar deals in WW2, or against Cuba.

This would be beneficial to the Nation not only because he's the only pure human on the accords, but also as a measure and step against Lara Raiths increase in power as well. As Thomas says Lara wants control, and even by Changes was able to bring a chopper into Mexico. Laras power has really only grown since the Fall of the Red Court, and the loose alliance against the Fomor.

Marcone would be seen as the devil they know. Even Harry views him as such.

So thoughts?

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DF Spoilers / Drakul/Dracula- Blood of the Dragon.
« on: January 18, 2020, 06:01:43 AM »
Rereading Grave Peril, at the Masquerade ball Michael Identifies/Prayer/Threats Mavra as 'Blood of the Dragon'. Significant given that in the same party we meet Ferrofax and find out about Siriothrax.

For a long time we've assumed Drakul was an Outsider. But the fact that the Black Court was made/sponsored by his son Dracula in addition to the fact that both names mean Dragon, and both were historically members of Order of the Dragon.

Seems fairly conclusive that they themselves are Dragon or Dragon related. The specific WOJ is this.

"Drakul wasn't a scion of anything! He was something entirely unhuman that got trapped in human form. Dracula was his half-human child, who naturally had enormous paternal issues, and wound up creating himself as the first Black Court Vampire in an effort to win his father's approval.
It didn't work out so well."

So entirely unhuman could mean Dragon.

Or from what we know of Outsiders at some point a lot of them were Dark Gods exiled to the Outer Gates, given how powerful Dragons are they could outrank said gods, so are therefore applicable to be cast out.

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DF Spoilers / Supernatural influence in culture.
« on: December 23, 2019, 08:05:05 AM »
So Mab helped publish the Grimm Fairy Tales, in part because according to Thomas, the Venatori tried to make the Fae 'forgettable'.

She also may have been partially responsible for the printing press, if Thomas wry humour included the Brother Grimm and the inventer of the Printing Press in the same sentence it's plausible she had a hand in that as well.

The very nature of the Venatori is too ensure society forgets old legends, so an innovation the spreads information might not have been to their advantage. Judging by White Council policy to publish dark books like the Necronicom in order for them to be useless (from there point of view). It seems like that tactic was designed to combat the Venatores.

However the fact that we know Lara Raith had a hand in publishing Dracula by Bram Stoker, shows how adaptable she can be, as she presumably did it part for the Venatores mission to annihalite ancient evil powers.

So we have 2 or 3 instances of supernatural influence of Culture.

1. Mab- Brothers Grimm Fairy Tales.
2. Mab- Printing Press
3. Mab- Disney.
3. Lara/Venatore- Bram Stoker.

Now we also know from WoJ, that the White Council had a big hand in the Renaissance. Making sure geniuses got proper education and positions of influence. I assume they made sure the old myths that inspired the Renaissance Menn were spread as well.

So thats 4.

4. White Council-Renaissance.

Kemmler- World War 1. Society of Thule which was a real cult, and an enemy of the White Council as we know from Luccios short story.

5. Kemmler- World War 1.
6. Kemmler- Thule Society.


7. Merlin- King Arthur.

As of Paranet Papers, we know of Simon Pietrovichs relationship with the Tsars of Russia.

8.Simon Pietrovich- Russian Revolution.

9. George Washing ton- Knight of the Cross

Now my question is what other influences on culture/history supernatural forces have had?

Personally I think there was something going on in the French Revolution/Napoleon Wars. Also I wonder if Kringle has a hand in Coca Cola.

Thoughts?

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DF Spoilers / Which god do you want to see in Dresden Files?
« on: October 01, 2019, 06:13:06 PM »
So by the Wrestling book we'll see a few more Gods which one do you want to see the most?

Personally I'm interested in the Greek Gods family dynamic as according to Jim Hades, is the sane one and has made analogies to Arrested Development.

However I'd also be interested in the Titans, as presumably they're some of the Old Ones humanity hasn't forgotten yet. So the Venatori and the Archive haven't been successful against them, so maybe we get to see more of the Oblivion War as well.

I also hope we see some of the Egyptian gods. The Egyptian Pantheon religion lasted for twice that of Christianity, assuming you discount Jewish tradition.Personally I think the Spear of Osiris was the Egyptian version of a Knight of the Cross. Also we know Father Forthill and some other priests have tattoos of the Eye of Horus so we might get some more significant information about that as well.

Anyway thoughts? Theories? Which god(s) and why?

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