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The Site => Site Suggestions & Support => Topic started by: GnosisRoads on April 13, 2009, 05:08:30 PM
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In the Dresdenfiles Spoiler forums the stickied threads are slowly taking over the first page of the forum. In a few years they may start colonizing the second page. Let's see if we can't take back some territory from them.
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,16.0.html (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,16.0.html)
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,2300.0.html (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,2300.0.html)
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,2526.0.html (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,2526.0.html)
The above threads say that the Dresden Files Spoilers Forum is a Spoiler okay zone, describes the policy spoilers for recently released novels/stories, and announces that we now have spoiler tags and when they should be used, respectively. One thread which contained all the info from theses 3 topics would be more efficient and instead of looking at 3 threads a new guy would only need to look at one.
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Totally agree, raised this a long time ago.
What was the admins response?
Scroll down!
Nothing to see here. No balls.
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Further thoughts.
Changes...Early Spoiler Rules
Spoiler Tags!
This is a SPOILERS OKAY zone
This is an ON TOPIC discussion board
Do I need four stickys telling me the same thing? These need to be consolidated.
Questions Specifically for Jim, part 2 - wacky or not, here we come!
Questions Specifically for Jim
Ultimate Jim Butcher Interviews Master List Part I & II
Another duplication. Why not just have one master list link in the other two and unsticky them.
Series Timeline
Short Stories -- Discussion Threads
Why are these stickys? Do I really need to be told about these threads each time I visit the board. No.
Topic List
No opinion on this one. Could at least be useful if maintained. If not then remove.
Can one of you Admins please tidy up the Dresden files spoilers board.
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You know, if you don't like how this board is run, no one's forcing you to be here.
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You know, if you don't like how this board is run, no one's forcing you to be here.
That's a little hostile don't you think? They are just making suggestions on the suggestion board, that's kind of why its here.
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That's a little hostile don't you think? They are just making suggestions on the suggestion board, that's kind of why its here.
There are suggestions and then there are remarks like "no balls". Big difference. Sorta like the difference between saying "I disagree with your point of view on this" and "Asshole". They're both saying the same thing, right? ;D
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There are suggestions and then there are remarks like "no balls". Big difference. Sorta like the difference between saying "I disagree with your point of view on this" and "Asshole". They're both saying the same thing, right? ;D
Ah I was reading a little to fast and didn't see that part, but I still think its a little to hostile.
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And I think referring to the mods and admins as having no balls was too hostile. *shrug* Different strokes.
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Well, one of us doesn't, despite making an EXCELLENT Nightcrawler.
I'll look into combining info from two of them later today, but one of them is locked from comments, which is why there's more than one.
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Mickey is more diplomatic than I am. If you want our help, you might want to ease back on the OMG UR DIX throttle there, Hoss.
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Mickey is more diplomatic than I am. If you want our help, you might want to ease back on the OMG UR DIX throttle there, Hoss.
Ashton "Blackstaff" McCoy.
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Ashton "Blackstaff" McCoy.
As long as he doesn't burn "BAD MOTHER F*****" on the staff, we'll allow it.
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As long as he doesn't burn "BAD MOTHER F*****" on the staff, we'll allow it.
Now I want a staff that has BAD MOTHER F***** in Ogham or Futhark engraved/burned into it.
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I have a claymore that has "FRONT TOWARDS ENEMY" on one side and "DO NOT EAT" on the other.
In runic.
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I have a claymore that has "FRONT TOWARDS ENEMY" on one side and "DO NOT EAT" on the other.
In runic.
Second time I've seen this and I'm STILL amused.
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I have a claymore that has "FRONT TOWARDS ENEMY" on one side and "DO NOT EAT" on the other.
In runic.
Reminds me of a story from basic:
We were doing drills on how to lay down supressive cover fire and the girl in front of me says "cover me while I move" and goes darting off through the course. The DS starts screaming, "No! No! NO! Too fast. Go back and start again only do it SLOWER!" So, she gets back in front of me, darts off through the course again, only looking over her shoulder saying, "cooooooover....meeeeeeee....while....IIIIIIIIIIIIII...moooo oooooooove."
FRONT TOWARDS ENEMY on your claymore is NOT a bad idea. :D
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Nice one Mickey Finn
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I have a claymore that has "FRONT TOWARDS ENEMY" on one side and "DO NOT EAT" on the other.
In runic.
That is full of win
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RPG board is starting to suffer from Sticky Thread Syndrome, as well. :-\
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RPG board is starting to suffer from Sticky Thread Syndrome, as well. :-\
RPG board? What RPG board? I thought it was the sticky forum.
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RPG board? What RPG board? I thought it was the sticky forum.
Jokes aside, I agree - and in fact is why I wandered down here. :) The front page currently has 11 stickies and 9 (typically fast-moving) non-stickies.
Maybe a merging of the "NO-SPOILERS"/"ON-TOPIC"/"If you want to discuss spoilers..." threads, and creation of a new "resources" sub-forum for the char sheet/web graphics/fan license stickies (and, for that matter, some of the non-sticky threads)?
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Or you can take the extremely difficult step of clicking on the link for the next page. *shrug* I understand if that's too much to ask. I mean, it's much harder than typing out a whole post. ;D
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Personally, I think a "Resources" child board is a very good idea.
Of course, I also think that when the Stickies (that often don't get posted in for weeks/months/years or are locked) outnumber the extremely fast moving threads, perhaps it actually is an issue and not just people being lazy.
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I just can't see how it CAN be an issue. I mean, how destructive could it possibly be to an adult's forum experience to have to click one more time? Are we that sold on the "validity" and "necessity" of instant gratification that ANY delay in getting what we want is bad? And where do we draw the line?
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You know where would be a good place to draw the line? How about when the stickies outnumber the active threads? :P :)
No, but seriously. A lot of people, especially new people, will simply look on the first page and move on. People have notied the Sticky threads taking over enough for them to wander down here and make a suggestion in the "Sight Suggestion and Support Area." Politely, I might add. Isn't that what it's here for?
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I just can't see how it CAN be an issue. I mean, how destructive could it possibly be to an adult's forum experience to have to click one more time? Are we that sold on the "validity" and "necessity" of instant gratification that ANY delay in getting what we want is bad? And where do we draw the line?
Because it's annoying and at least arguably unnecessary? Or heck, even just the fact that right now with a 1280x1024 desktop and my browser full-screen, I have to scroll down to see the first non-sticky? The fact that, yes, it's easy to click through doesn't mean people want to. If there's an easy solution, why exactly is it "vanity" to not want to deal with it?
Plus, as the kind lady said, that's exactly what this forum is for. :-P
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Problem with a 'resources sub-forum' is that it removes announcements intended to govern the parent-forum. However, there is a benefit to consolidating the stickies beyond cosmetics and accessibility. Simply, it cuts down on the number of threads, which should be a benefit considering the recent concern of topic pruning, etc.
A global "Read before posting" sticky would accommodate all the the administrative posts and even locked should still be editable by global admins. Followed by a "FAQ" sticky, pertaining to the base topic of the forum, which is fairly standard. Then a specialized sticky or 2 such as the "Short Stories" sticky (Personally I find this helpful as I tend to lose track of the Short Stories order and upcoming, etc.) would be a non-issue.
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Because it's annoying and at least arguably unnecessary? Or heck, even just the fact that right now with a 1280x1024 desktop and my browser full-screen, I have to scroll down to see the first non-sticky? The fact that, yes, it's easy to click through doesn't mean people want to. If there's an easy solution, why exactly is it "vanity" to not want to deal with it?
This has been raised as an issue for a number of years, yet your suggestion hasn't been implemented; given how responsive Fred's been to suggestions in the past, this seems indicative. Might want to consider the possibility that it ISN'T an easy solution, or that taking that route eliminates positive aspects that you may not be considering.
Plus, as the kind lady said, that's exactly what this forum is for. :-P
Right. It's about an exchange of ideas, a discussion, which means that I feel free to disagree on this. *shrug* It's no great hardship, not to mention that a number of the stickied threads DO tend to get posted to often enough, in my opinion, to warrant a separate, visible title. Just because one person doesn't feel any desire to check up on stickied posts doesn't mean others shouldn't be allowed to without far more clicking-through than the current system requires.
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Doesn't everyone just use the unread/new replies links on the upper left? ???
;)
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This has been raised as an issue for a number of years, yet your suggestion hasn't been implemented; given how responsive Fred's been to suggestions in the past, this seems indicative. Might want to consider the possibility that it ISN'T an easy solution, or that taking that route eliminates positive aspects that you may not be considering.
It's actually rather simple, unless the admin panel of these boards is vastly different from every other one I've experienced and doesn't really eliminate anything positive if stickies are merely combined rather than deleted outright. However it probably still will not resolve the issue of people complaining since there are still going to be a number of beneficial stickies. Which is probably the issue, it may take a little time to decide which stickies to combine or whatever and even less time/effort to implement, but there's probably more important things to worry about considering even after the time and effort people will still be complaining.
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We can and do consolidate sticky threads occasionally. Others get their sticky bit retired after a while.
The issue, really, is one of psychology, and the realities of how people read and pay attention. Edits, amendments, and follow-up posts on a single or small set of sticky threads tend not to achieve the level of awareness of a combination of separate posts.
But like I said, we are looking at consolidation here and there where we can manage it, and beyond that I've recently increased the number of topics that get listed per page of a board which should at least address some of the "there are more stickies than non stickies" part of things.
That said, I wouldn't expect us to treat this as a super high priority issue in general. A mild annoyance that can be addressed by 0.1 seconds of scrolling or a simple keystroke (the page down button) ends up seeming less important when stacked next to misbehavior, policy, and site software issues. :)