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DF Spoilers / Re: Did Maggie REALLY curse Raith?
« on: September 29, 2018, 08:14:44 PM »
Point of order: Is Harry's mother ever officially called "Maggie"? I thought it was always Margaret.

The only person I remember being referred to as Maggie was Harry's daughter.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Salic Law and Harry's Understanding of Magic Genetics
« on: August 12, 2018, 11:23:23 PM »
White Knight? There is no such novel.

Do you perhaps means Summer Knight, or White Night?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Salic Law and Harry's Understanding of Magic Genetics
« on: August 12, 2018, 07:07:53 PM »
I think Maggie Sr. inheriting her magic from her father's side was even lampshaded in the book as an example that there are exceptions the the usual matrilineal inheritance.

If so, I would appreciate a quote from the books to that effect. I've been looking for one.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?
« on: August 12, 2018, 04:13:41 AM »
DV? Dresden Viles?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?
« on: August 09, 2018, 07:17:25 PM »
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I don't think potions can create a warlock so it's not a violation.  HOWEVER  I will admit that any wizard who would create potions with the intent to rape is probably going to use mental magic or other dark magic and become a warlock.  It would just be in their nature to do it.

And Victor Sells is a case in point.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?
« on: August 09, 2018, 03:12:33 AM »
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If Morgan had known about it he very well may have tried to get Harry on that charge...

Morgan was there when Susan vomited it up; he must have known about it. But no, he didn't try to get Harry on that charge.

So clearly love potions don't violate any of the Laws of Magic.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?
« on: August 08, 2018, 01:49:22 PM »
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Making a love potion isn't a violation of the
Law, but perhaps using one to alter another's mind without permission may be...

If so, then Morgan (who at the time was always looking for a reason to harass Harry) would have harassed Harry about the woman who had just drunk and purged a love potion.

I maintain that vomiting up the love potion didn't completely purge it from Susan's system, based on the premise that it enters the bloodstream as quickly as alcohol does.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?
« on: August 07, 2018, 08:08:00 PM »
Molly never got tainted for what she did to Harry in "Changes," so clearly that wasn't nearly as bad as what she did to her friends in "Proven Guilty."

And the main difference, as far as I can see, is that Harry consented to what she did in "Changes."

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DF Spoilers / Re: Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?
« on: August 07, 2018, 03:50:48 PM »
The operative words seem to be "invasion" and "violation." You don't consent to an invasion or a violation.

Or to put it another way, if you do consent, it isn't an invasion or a violation.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?
« on: August 07, 2018, 03:33:37 PM »
Yes, and the Hexenwolf belts are an exception to the "transform against their will" rule specifically because a person consents to the transformation by willingly putting on the belt.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?
« on: August 07, 2018, 03:28:53 PM »
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It is also possible, if the mind wizard is not skilled enough, he or she might do some rewiring by accident when entering another's mind. And that will really be black magic.

At which point, even a mind that had consented to being entered would probably yell "GET OUT!"

That's what happened when Harry tried to soulgaze... I think it was Ursiel.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?
« on: August 07, 2018, 01:43:15 PM »
Point of order: An invasion is an entry without consent.

Since in most other cases consent makes magic much easier and safer (a wizard can cast spells freely in another person's house if the other person invited him in, and not otherwise, for example), it stands to reason that it's the lack of consent inherent in an invasion that makes entering someone's mind dangerous, not the entry itself.

Particularly given that consensual entries into the minds of others have been shown not to be nearly as dangerous as invasions.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?
« on: August 06, 2018, 01:35:46 PM »
"Invasion" implies lack of consent.

A consensual entry into someone's mind thus is not considered an invasion.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?
« on: July 19, 2018, 04:11:58 PM »
You either do, or do not. There is no try.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?
« on: July 18, 2018, 08:32:27 PM »
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Not so fast, if the drinker has no clue as to what he or she is drinking, it isn't his or her own decision...

Point of order: Susan didn't know what she was drinking.

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