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Title: So Bob knows the password to the well
Post by: TrueMonk on May 14, 2020, 12:55:04 PM
So Bob, whose loyalty is based on who is in possession of the skull knows the password to the prison on Demonreach. Does that not seem like it is just asking for trouble? Or is there something I am missing?
Title: Re: So Bob knows the password to the well
Post by: Con on May 14, 2020, 01:19:13 PM
Where are you getting that?
Title: Re: So Bob knows the password to the well
Post by: morriswalters on May 14, 2020, 03:38:14 PM
I believe Bob is in the bag and can't see Demonreach when he activates the portal or door if you will.  But it isn't clear.  Bob talks to Harry on the way down and then he doesn't speak again until he directs Harry's attention to Skin Walker in a cell. So yes Bob may have the key.  It may be that only Demonreach or the Warden can use it.  \shrug/
Title: Re: So Bob knows the password to the well
Post by: AClone on May 15, 2020, 03:09:31 AM
I think that the key part is that Harry effectively swore Bob to secrecy before he ever let him start looking around.

Of course, I’m not sure how effective that is.
Title: Re: So Bob knows the password to the well
Post by: Mira on May 15, 2020, 09:56:55 PM
I think that the key part is that Harry effectively swore Bob to secrecy before he ever let him start looking around.

Of course, I’m not sure how effective that is.

Pretty effective I believe, plus Alfred scared the living crap out of Bob.
Title: Re: So Bob knows the password to the well
Post by: g33k on May 16, 2020, 07:37:00 AM
I'd have to re-read; I just don't remember clearly enough to have a firm opinion as to whether Bob does or doesn't know...

Pretty effective I believe, plus Alfred scared the living crap out of Bob.

I don't think Bob would be very eager to go back to the island.  Without the Warden accompanying/avouching him... completely unwilling (modulo the "have to obey the owner of the skull" bargain).

That doesn't mean Bob might not divulge the info to someone other than Harry, if he were in said "someone's" possession...
 
But I don't think that simply "having the password" is sufficient to bypass Alfred's active defenses, it just "lowers the drawbridge" in some passive ones.

Title: Re: So Bob knows the password to the well
Post by: Mira on May 16, 2020, 10:56:55 AM
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That doesn't mean Bob might not divulge the info to someone other than Harry, if he were in said "someone's" possession...

  I don't think he can, at least not easily because I got the impression that Harry ordered him to
forget it.  Harry even said he didn't want a repeat of "Evil Bob" coming out and divulging the password.  Unless he was lying, Bob said that wasn't likely to happen again.
Title: Re: So Bob knows the password to the well
Post by: g33k on May 16, 2020, 08:37:26 PM
... Unless he was lying, Bob said that wasn't likely to happen again.

I don't think it was "likely" to happen in the first place, either!

However, wizards are really good at getting "unlikely" things to happen...
 
Title: Re: So Bob knows the password to the well
Post by: Bad Alias on May 17, 2020, 05:02:13 AM
I can think of a couple of ways Bob could have complied with Harry's orders. The first is that it was some kind of bargain. See Backup. The second is if Bob destroyed his memory of it.
Title: Re: So Bob knows the password to the well
Post by: Mira on May 17, 2020, 10:56:17 AM
I can think of a couple of ways Bob could have complied with Harry's orders. The first is that it was some kind of bargain. See Backup. The second is if Bob destroyed his memory of it.

  I got the impression that Bob did the latter.