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The Dresden Files => DF Spoilers => Topic started by: Yuillegan on November 02, 2018, 03:59:07 AM
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I have a very tenuous theory, but it feels right.
When Harry asks Binder who Madeline Raith is working for (in Turn Coat) Binder says he never knew. All he did know was it was some bloke with a lot of money. I never talked to him. When she was on the phone with him, they spoke English. He wasn’t a native speaker. Sounded like he’d learned it from a Continental.
Continental tends to mean Europe. Christos is Greek and described to wear wealthy designer suits underneath his Wizard robe.
Just a thought.
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Could just be Peabody.
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Could just be Peabody, but I don't think so. I don't remember Harry noticing that Peabody's voice had any peculiar characteristics, just that he came off as an officious little twit. Jim likes to talk about what a lazy writer he is, that he doesn't put odd story details into a given novel just to throw them away later. I think if Madeline's contact was Peabody, Jim would have had Harry mention Peabody's odd manner of speaking or the strange way he pronounced certain words.
Also, this is still an unsolved mystery (one of many) within the greater story. There was also the clue of a telephone number in Madeline's phone to a restaurant in Cairo, Egypt. (If my memory is correct.) Somehow I don't think it would be good writing if sometime in a future Dresden novel we are told that two characters who died six, seven or eight books ago were actually working hand in hand. It reminds me of an idea of one forum member who was convinced that Maeve was the girl that Harry saw at Splattercon dressed up as a vampire before all hell broke loose at the convention. This person continued to post this idea long after Maeve got killed off at the end of Cold Days. (I suppose that could still be a relevant WAG if Harry breaks the Law against time travel by revisiting the events of Proven Guilty.) It was a fun WAG, but it's not relevant now that Maeve is dead, just as Peabody being Madeline's contact is no longer relevant for the same reason.
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Something to note, the second step of the journey to Chichen Itza puts the party on the Giza Plateau, in an area called the Giza Necropolis, with one portal on a pyramid. It screams clue.
And on a related note the next step after that could be into the far future. Assuming that it is on Earth it could be when the Sun is turning into a Red Giant. This would be idle speculation unrelated to fact.
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Yeah I think KurtinStGeorge is right, Arjan. Peabody has been dead for too long, if you were gonna reveal it was him he has had ample time to do it. And the whole Egypt thing is a big mystery.
Some Black Council/Circle activity is definitely based there. There was some dark stuff in that Ghoul/Goblin series based there. And there was that massive destruction of the communications centre there where a senior regional commander (warden) was captured. Such a significant threat the Senior Council went out to fight. And of course as Morris says, the second step of the journey to Chichen Itza was a definitely a clue.
He has done a fair amount of foundational work around Egypt. I suspect he has something planned.
Morris - definitely could be a far future thing, especially if you buy into the GUMCT theory that is floating around. I think it was Serack's big cosmology/mythology of the universe. And quite a good one. Could indeed be that the Giza Necropolis Nevernever part is future/past or another universe. He has left the door open on it.
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Could just be Peabody, but I don't think so. I don't remember Harry noticing that Peabody's voice had any peculiar characteristics, just that he came off as an officious little twit.
Plus, a name like "Peabody" is pretty much as native-English-speaker as it gets.
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I had a similar thought about Cristos; but, he seems too much like an idiot.
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@Yuillegan
I have no idea what the crystal pyramids mean, that was idle speculation. However the stream flowing backwards indicates a reversal in time, the only real time travel effect seen in the books to this point.
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I had a similar thought about Cristos; but, he seems too much like an idiot.
Evil geniuses sometimes are wise enough to act like idiots to keep people from suspecting them. Look at Jar Jar Binks.
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Read about that theory. He's about as much a Sith Lord as I am a virgin.
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Read about that theory. He's about as much a Sith Lord as I am a virgin.
Don't get down on yourself, dude. It'll happen one day. ;D
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If so, my wife needs to explain our son.
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If so, my wife needs to explain our son.
No problem, she is a virgin too ;D
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I've assumed Christos. The whole thing was coordinated too much, and he's pretty much the only Council member who gained something from Turn Coat (which I am listening to at the moment; about to get to the Speaking Room Reveal). Harry points out the oddness of accents after Binder's line, wherein he says something like: "Imagine a native Greek speaker learning English from a German Professor at a University in Belgium."
Personally, I assume the man on the phone was Connor MacLeod.
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There can be only one!
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I've assumed Christos. The whole thing was coordinated too much, and he's pretty much the only Council member who gained something from Turn Coat.
It's been a while since I've read it, but I remember it being suggested that killer killed LaFortier because LaFortier found out who was the traitor. Therefore, no one needed to benefit to explain the events. (Obviously Peabody wasn't the only one involved as there were two people on the island summoning the spiders).
I like the idea of Christos just being a moron.
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Fair enough, but I believe Christos is complicit, not just dumb.
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Cristos was the replacement LaFortier's followers wanted. He wasn't the natural next Senior Council member. The natural replacement was Klaus the Toymaker. Everyone senior to him had already passed and/or been absent at least twice, and maybe even killed. The only way Cristos was able to skip to the front of the line was by threatening to destroy the Council.
If Cristos was Black Council, he would have feigned acceptance of Klaus on the part of his constituency and then told his constituency that they had been railroaded by the Merlin.
That's the best reasoning I can come up with for "Cristos isn't Black Council," and it relies on the assumption that Cristos couldn't put himself forward in the election process once Klaus accepted the nomination, which isn't an assumption I'm willing to make.
There's obviously more than one bad guy in the Council. Cristos is a good bet. If I had to pick someone as the bad guy on the Council, I don't see a better pick. Long story short, I agree with you, but I just like the idea that Cristos is some stupid puppet. Kind of how I like the idea of winning the lottery but don't think I'm going to win (except I have better, if not good, odds with Cristos).
On a side note, we've been spelling Cristos wrong.
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Let's consider the misspelling more of an insult towards the character and less a comment of our mental acuity.
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Fair enough, but I believe Christos is complicit, not just dumb.
Why not both? The world is full of people who are complicit in evil because their lack of intelligence and/or ego makes them easy to manipulate and control. Example: Rudolph.
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Regarding Cristos:
Here’s how I see it - while Peabody & his proximity/ influence over the Senior Council explain the intelligence leaks behind the Red Court’s gains throughout the war, I’m fairly certain we haven’t caught the Big Bad on the White Council yet. Even if Cristos is working with/ for the Black Council, I don’t see him as being the Black Council’s ultimate mole in the White Council
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Conspiracies always need a few patsies. A$$Holes make good patsies. Cristos fits the bill. Unfortunately, so does Harry.