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DF Spoilers / Uriel's Seven Words, So Who is the Liar?
« on: October 23, 2023, 07:38:48 PM »
We are told from the get go that the Fae cannot lie. It is Mab's standard reply to any question or problem Harry may have with something she has asked of him... The Fae cannot lie, even though Harry may feel like she has moved the goal posts to suit whatever it is in his dealings with her. We've also heard Lea say it, it is established that the Fae cannot lie.
Uriel is an archangel, I don't think in general they are liars either. One of his kind is called," the Prince of Lies," better known as Satan, who was kicked out of Heaven for that among other offenses. Anyway Google the question, "can angels lie?" You will get different answers, in Jewish religion, no. In Christian religion, yes, if it is for your own good,and no,the holy angels never lie because that would be a sin. Confusing ain't it? So when it comes to angels apparently it becomes an article of faith in their truth and trust in your belief system..
I ask this question because at the end of Ghost Story Mab is telling Harry just what she expects of him now that he is her Knight.. As you know Harry isn't very happy with what he is hearing, and neither is Alfred, aka Demonreach.
page 475 Ghost Story
Now comes the interesting bit.. Harry hears a calm gentle voice whispering in his ear, Uriel's voice I presume..
By my reading, somebody just called Mab, the Winter Fae Queen, a liar.... So, if it was Uriel calling her that, was he lying? Or is Mab a liar? Harry did indeed feel better after he heard those seven words, so according to some Google research on the question, Uriel could be lying about Mab for Harry's own good.. However if you want to go to the Jewish or other Christian faiths, Uriel, being a holy angel, cannot lie.. So is he mistaken? Did Mab just lie?
Uriel, or did someone, hey it could have been his mother who whispered it, [Margaret is neither angel nor Fae, so she could lie to make her son feel better,] just called Mab a liar?
Uriel is an archangel, I don't think in general they are liars either. One of his kind is called," the Prince of Lies," better known as Satan, who was kicked out of Heaven for that among other offenses. Anyway Google the question, "can angels lie?" You will get different answers, in Jewish religion, no. In Christian religion, yes, if it is for your own good,and no,the holy angels never lie because that would be a sin. Confusing ain't it? So when it comes to angels apparently it becomes an article of faith in their truth and trust in your belief system..
I ask this question because at the end of Ghost Story Mab is telling Harry just what she expects of him now that he is her Knight.. As you know Harry isn't very happy with what he is hearing, and neither is Alfred, aka Demonreach.
page 475 Ghost Story
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"To ourpurposes now."
The very ground seemed to quiver, to let out an unthinkable low, deep,angry,growl.
Mab's eyes snapped to Demonreach. "I have his oath, ancient one.
What he has given is mine by right, and you cannot gainsay it. He is mine to shape as I please."
"Damnit," I said tiredly. "Damnit."
Now comes the interesting bit.. Harry hears a calm gentle voice whispering in his ear, Uriel's voice I presume..
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And a voice---a very calm, very gentle, very rational voice whispered in my ear,"Lies. Mab cannot change who you are."
By my reading, somebody just called Mab, the Winter Fae Queen, a liar.... So, if it was Uriel calling her that, was he lying? Or is Mab a liar? Harry did indeed feel better after he heard those seven words, so according to some Google research on the question, Uriel could be lying about Mab for Harry's own good.. However if you want to go to the Jewish or other Christian faiths, Uriel, being a holy angel, cannot lie.. So is he mistaken? Did Mab just lie?
Uriel, or did someone, hey it could have been his mother who whispered it, [Margaret is neither angel nor Fae, so she could lie to make her son feel better,] just called Mab a liar?