Maybe in the future a network with more vision and flexibility will give the Dresden world the support and room it needs to truly bloom and grow.8)
As I've mentioned elsewhere, except for Terry Pratchett, I've never been a big SciFi/Fantasy fan. My teenaged daughter was the one who made me watch The Dresden Files, and I have to say that I did enjoy it. I'm sorry that it was cancelled. I've signed the petition, and am going to buy a drumstick this weekend in hopes that it'll help find the show another home. The show is very different than the books (which I absolutely love), but it's fun to watch.Paul Blackthorne has a recurring role in Big Shots, but he stated in a recent interview that he 'absolutely' would come back to play Harry. All we have to do is get it back on the air!
Assuming that the show ends up coming back, what will happen with the guy who played Dresden? I've read that he's got another show on a different station. Will he come back, or would they have to get someone else?
Thanks for the info. I'm glad he'd continue with the role. I think he fits it perfectly, and it doesn't hurt that he's incredibly sexy. Even my kid thinks so, and she's young enough to think that the idea of a man in his 30's as attractive is "creepy".
Thanks for the info. I'm glad he'd continue with the role. I think he fits it perfectly, and it doesn't hurt that he's incredibly sexy. Even my kid thinks so, and she's young enough to think that the idea of a man in his 30's as attractive is "creepy".Isn't he JUST!!! ;D
I didn't care for the Sci_fi series. It was too different from the books and I've read or heard all the various reasons why.
Here's wishing there will be a big screen adaptation or someone like HBO takes on a true adaptation.
Hi rinascita - Welcome to the Forum! The tv series is available ...
I found one. While I like Bob from the books, I LOVE Hrothbert of Bainbridge.
You know, it's days like this that I wish I had a ton of money laying around so that I could help shows like The Dresden Files continue into a long running series. I would have loved to donate it to the producers to keep it going.< Excellent post . i agree.
It's seems incredibly unfair that Stargate SG-1 ran for so long and yet Dresden was axed so abruptly without giving anyone a chance to fully enjoy it. Even Dead Zone is still running even though they had to move to a different network later on (they found a way to keep going which is fantastic).
Heck, I never even saw the show until way after Christmas, it should have been on the air in September like all of the other shows that premiere at that time.
The Dresden Files was by far one of the best series on television and it deserved to have had a chance to gain a much stronger fan base like Bones. We really should have been blessed with 20 episodes rather than a measly 12, it didn't give us a chance to get become intimately familiar with it.
I'm keeping my fingers (and my toes) crossed for possible feature films or DVD movies of The Dresden Files. I'm giddy as a school kid just thinking about it....
So wait...What replaced the TV series?
Overall, I thought the show had potential. My main problem with Bob wasn't so much that they turned him into a ghost, but it seemed like the actor was channeling Tim Curry most of the time. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it made me wish Tim Curry was playing Bob. sigh. I'm sorry that there won't be a season two.
Still, there's the huge sense of... wanting? ...that remains. A whole lot was left unsaid. I sincerely hope that the TV-verse storylines will be resolved someday.
Robert Wolfe broke his promise to us long ago that if it didn't continue he would reveal those stories to us.
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I enjoyed it, and once I knew it had books, I sped off to look for some. Shame it got killed.
Books are way, way better! I just borrow them though. I want my own copies, but they don't sell it in my country, last time I checked a bookstore. Maybe I should check other bookstores... (why oh why...)
You could always buy them off the Internet.
the only show on that channel i could get my wife to watch....sigh. this far out and i was still hoping that they would resurrect it. How long was Family Guy off the air before they brought it back? I actually got into the books because of the show. I loved them both. I dug the interaction between the show bob and harry.
You even get a feel for Bob...and how his skull would look and talk.
I love the books so much...so I was really disappointed with the series. When you read the books you start to get a feel for what Harry would look like...his attitude....and his general comportment. You also get a feel for how Karrin Murphy would look...and her general attitude and comportment. You even get a feel for Bob...and how his skull would look and talk. Then along comes the series...and everything has changed. I recognize that things can be better fleshed out in a book....but come on! Everyone...especially Murphy...just didn't ring true.
I'm afraid that's what happens when you let TV executives get hold of a script and make changes. If I had my way....Jim Butcher would have been executive producer of the series...answering to no one....and if his idea of what the series should look like doesn't float...then so be it. But I just got the sense that someone who hadn't read the series...or didn't care...had the final word on the project....and seriously dropped the ball.
Maybe they should try an "IT"-type mini-series for one of the books...and see what they can do with that. ???
I love Jims work and always will but the TV series is a goner and it's better for that.
And, honestly? Ghost-Bob was pretty awesome. He was played very well, too. Heck, if a new series was made, I'd want Bob to be done like that again.
I agree. Terrence Mann as Bob / Hrothbert of Bainbridge was probably one of the best things about the show. I was very disappointed we didn't get to learn more about his backstory.
I liked Terence Mann as Bob also, but his story should still have been Bob's, air elemental, spirit of intellect, etc. .
That lost love thing was a mistake.
If they thought so little of the series Jim created why did they bother to buy it and can Jim get the rights back so he can try again?
They didn't think little of Jim Butcher's book series or they wouldn't have wanted to use it at all. There were changes, most of which were very necessary. You have to be realistic with what can or can't make sense on TV and what a TV audience will respond well toward. Certain things seem great in a novel that just won't work on TV.
I doubt many would have noticed or cared about the distinction.
Now about what works and what doesn't.
This wasn't about what a TV audience can make sense of, they can make sense of everything from "The X-files" to "Fringe" and track the twist and turns of Walter ( Who is "grey" morally if ever a sympathetic character was.) and the seasons end of "Burn Notice" has just put Michael Weston in immediate moral peril that's been building for 3 seasons now.
Terence Mann as Bob struck me as a necessary change, that was correct even if turning him to the remaining half of a pair of star-crossed lovers wasn't.
An Army Jeep?
No trenchcoat??
A hockey stick!?!??
Murphy a single mom??
Butters a college drop-out slacker? Ok, so that's just how he came off to me. I expected him to pull out a Mt Dew and a bag of Cheetos everytime he was on screen.?
A magic store?
And while Paul Blackthorne has been lauded around here, for me, he was quite possibly the most un-Dresden actor they could've cast. I know everyone has a different "vision" of the characters of their favorite novels and I've always pictured Dresden in the novels as looking a bit like the author himself. Tall, lanky, a little "geeky". Blackthorne just seemed too....polished. And where was the ever present Dresden sarcasm?
QuoteIf you bothered reading these forums these questions would have been answered about forty eight times by now.
Oh, I get that. I really do. In fact, I have read through these forums and found a lot of similar complaints and the fact of the matter is, no matter how many times someone tries to explain why certain changes were made, it doesn't change the fact that, with the exception of my Murphy complaint, the things that were changed were iconic parts of Dresden. It's kinda like saying Wolverine can be a guy with some knives, those claw thingies just don't work.QuoteDresden is a blue collar wizard. The idea was he would enchant whatever he could get a hold of. Some people debated that a hockey stick is less conspicuous. According to Jim Butcher the Hockey stick was supposed to have emotional significance for Harry but the show was canceled before they could get into that. Apparently Harry's father used to take him to play hockey.I'll give ya this one. Still a damned silly looking staff and maybe it coulda been more Wizard Staff and less Magical Gun. Also, it's not like a guy carrying a walking stick draws much attention in the real world, doubt he woulda been much more conspicuous in the Dresdenverse.QuoteThat's not fair. Butters physically of the show was exactly what was described in the books. Or did you miss the short nerdish polka loving guy with issues bit that's all through the novels and show in regard to him?Ok, ok, ok...maybe this was my own little hang up. ::)QuoteThat's a scrying crystal. It's traditional occultist magick. As in real folklore. They had magical practitioners and occultists on set to make sure the magick in the show was real and researched. Every symbol on Bob's skull for example is real spirit binding symbols, mostly from the Key of Solomon (One of the oldest known Grimoires of the dark ages). If you pause your DVD on any scene in Harry's lab you can see dozens of artifacts used in real magical tradition. The magick on the show was impressively researched. To this day I can't find any fantasy show that even remotely made as big of an effort into it's occult research. Remember, Nic Cage was executive producer. He's very into the occult and he wanted accuracy in occult / New age / Hermetic tradition. Harry has a tracking spell he uses in almost every novel, you realize. And quartz crystals DO come up in the books. Wow... Just Wow... The fact that a fan of the books actually complained about this AND how Butters looked goes beyond ... that just blue my mind. As someone who has studied parapsychology the fact that THIS was something that bothered you, the extensive research into the occult, using rare and out of print real grimoires... My headaches... This was one of the aspects of the show they went all out for.I'm not sure what this was all about, but my original question was about Harry working out of what appeared to be a Magic Store. I later learned it just looked like a store front and was his office/living space.
I can understand most of the questions but this one!?? Why was a WIZARD using a scrying crystal in a tracking spell!?! To me that's like asking 'Why does he have a pentacle?!'
So, yea. I'm sorry for not perusing the forums a bit more and for beating the proverbial dead horse. In my defense, I had never had the chance to watch the show before just recently, so while everyone else's adoration/disdain had dimmed, mine was fresh. I've spent the last few days familiarizing myself with the board and, since I have absolutely zero problems with the novels, I doubt this'll be a repeat problem.
I'm not sure what this was all about, but my original question was about Harry working out of what appeared to be a Magic Store. I later learned it just looked like a store front and was his office/living space.
And don't let me drive you off. I was in a bad mood when I replied to you. The humidity here was getting to me.
... we lost Dresden and got handed Sanctuary. No offense to any fans that are out there, but that seems an entirely unfair exchange IMO ???
... we lost Dresden and got handed Sanctuary. No offense to any fans that are out there, but that seems an entirely unfair exchange IMO ???
The Sci Fi TV series was alright but it lacked the feeling of the books. In order for this series to reach its full potential it needs to be produced by a company such as HBO who has proven over the years to be masters of making TV series that easily match the high standards of a Hollywood movie production. I also believe that the best hope for the series would be not to make a single series but instead a series of miniseries with each book consisting of two or three hour long episodes. If done in this kind of format the stories of each novel can remain intact with minimal alterations and would potentially allow all 13, soon to be 14, books to be brought to life in a reasonable time span of 7 or fewer seasons. And to kick off this new and improved Dresden series I think it would be a great idea to see Storm Front hit the big screen which I feel would draw in the audience a series of this magnitude would require to survive, and because I think it would be awesome to see Dresden kicking butt in a theater near me.