Harry is making a mistake accepting too much of what Butters theorizes.  Butters is the one who gave Harry a reverse magic feather by explaining that the Mantle just hijacks his pain thresholds.  Butters had seen a lot by then, but not nearly enough to be a magical, but not magic consultant. 

In the Lake, Butters is doing some quick math.  Phase changes -- ice to liquid/liquid to steam -- represent absolutely stupid amounts of energy.  He has just realized how much ice Harry made in just a few seconds to float half of a sunken warehouse to the surface and it probably compares quite favorably to a small power plant: 

According to Wolfram Alpha it is about 3.19 x 10^6 KJ (to freeze 30 tons of water), and if it took 30 seconds that works out to be .1 Mega Watts. 

So, yeah that's a crazy feat of power all things considered 

You big beautiful nerd you! Bringing Science into this.
Butter' s theory makes sense given the info he has. And everything he sees just shows him how scary THE WK IS.
The WK IS more powerful than anyone including  Butters thinks. I think he is in the same range has most Fae Eldest.

Most mental whammy require blood or body fluid. So the circle is useless. Or contact with the skin or eyes so in this case maybe?

There is a WOJ that the Enlightenment was a WC project of a previous Merlin. Plus most supernaturals seem to view humanity has cattle. And probably helped humanity to develop especially the white court. Since they believe cities are kennels

We have discussed how the WC is old and needs to change my question is how. This was brought on by a discussion on reforming the UN. Another useless organization. Or is it?
Do you do get rid of the SC position?. Or have wizards vote for them. DEMOCRACY BOY!!!!. Bare in mind the SC is feared and is the reason why the WC IS FEARED. Luccio implies that as long as the SC stands wizards will win the RC war no matter what happens to the wardens. Do choose a Merlin who is weak but good at politics? How will you hold the WC together? If the SC is now weak.
Do you give little talent membership? Will they vote?

Been rereading the books. The Knights are said to hold a lot of power. But we never see then doing anything beyond mortal with winter/summer power. They seem to be wizard level at best. Ditto the Ladies they seem SC level. On the other hand the Knights were have met Slate was a thug. Not brains type.
Then BG was released and Harry uses the banner. The first Knight in centuries to do so. And I started thinking.
In Cold Days Maeve says Harry can kill Mab. Here the thing what if the banner is the Knights true power calling others to your side. My theory is the knights are the field commander of all the fae forces. Wk for winter Sk for summer.
A fully realized Knight can summon forces to his side at will. Including creatures of the fae court he serves. Hold that thought will get back to it.
Remember the Milwaukee incident were the city vanished to hours and the current form of the accords was signed as a result. Once so a WOJ that it was the Knights fighting that triggered it. The Knights involved must have tapped in to their true power unknowingly and started a war between the courts.
Mab and Titania done tell the new Knights they true power. Only a competent knight gets to release what their purpose is.
Meanwhile the Ladies are the 4 star generals meant to give the Knights their orders.

I agree with the premise, and yet also disagreee.

G33k raises a few good points - namely that the White Council is simply a product of it's time. They aren't all that adaptable. They do have huge resources, but they also are heavily hamstrung by their own internal political problems. They only appear on the outside to work together; internally I would say it's far less organised. Think the UN, but at a smaller scale (the whole White Council is barely a few thousand wizards, given that their wardens only numbered about 200 in Dead Beat).

I agree that Jim probably would find it hard to emulate an Illuminati-esque organisation given his presumed lack of exposure to one. I also agree that the rich and powerful tend to have armies of servants to support them. I suspect the really powerful wizards probably do have large networks of allies and servants - we just haven't seen that much of this yet. But each of the Senior Council has shown glimpses into their networks. The Merlin, of course, has an entire organisation under him to direct. But the Gatekeeper has shown his relationships with the Faeries, Listens-to-Wind has shown his relationships to the Forest People as well as other local magical groups, Martha Liberty has connections amongst the Loa, La Fortier had deep relationships with a lot of European and other factions (which Cristos has taken over), Simon had relationships with the vampires it seems (as well as other European connections), and of course Ebenezar has been shown with the most connections (Vadderung, the Grey Council, Kenku, etc). Part of what makes the senior wizards so strong is their allies and political strength, on top of their magical might and skills. Jim has also said they each have their own demesnes to retreat to...which gets interesting.

We just haven't seen everyone put their cards on the table, as it's a Harry-centric story. Remember, the White Council had many allies to support it during it's war with the vampires. And when it came time to finish them off, there is a decent theory that Harry's involvement with destroying the Red Court and ending the war was somewhat planned (potentially that Harry acting unbeknownst to himself as a sort-of black ops agent). When the temperature ramps up I wouldn't be surprised to see people start to put their cards on the table.

I also believe that the White Council is very strict about allowing outsiders in - as G33k points out it is a security issue as much as anything. But they also seem to big on the idea of not involving vanilla mortals in their affairs. So the hiring of clued-in mortals seems a bit tricky.

I suspect the reason they have survived so long is partially to do with the appearance of power. They have overcome much in their history, which gives the predators pause. And Ebenezar has hinted that the White Council has nearly been wiped out several times over. So yes, they probably have more than a few supernatural benefactors invested in their survival. There is a reasonable theory that Vadderung (among others) caused the creation of the White Council - which makes sense given that he personally trained the original Merlin. So he and those like him would be invested in it's survival. I would be willing to bet he puts out a lot of unseen fires. Let alone beings like Uriel.

Not to mention, at the end of the day it's a group of several thousand of the strongest mortal magic users on the planet (with the exception of certain dark wizards and so on). That power combined, that knowledge combined, makes them a match for many groups. Yes, they are still minnows. They are nowhere near the top of the food chain. But they can probably hurt just about any being, and that alone is scary. Mortal magic after all has special and unique properties that the other supernatural beings don't have. And the White Council is probably the largest well of mortal magic on the planet.

I think the White Council's greatest threat ultimately is itself - and that is certain to be its downfall. Nothing lasts forever and the White Council is assuredly at the end of its time.

Sorry, only just read Snark Knight who sums it up more succinctly and clearly than myself. Agreed.

The WC suffers from organizational inertia. Almost every large organization has this issue, irl think cops, UN, military and others. Every one knows the organization needs to changeonly noone agrees on what that change should be.
This is why i think the war will benefit the WC IN THE end. New recruits to the Wardens Carlos and such picked up stuff from the old guys and from Harry. Harry mentions that most new Wardens try to model Carlos.
Harry for all his talk is anti social and only attends meetings which are bad news for the council. He does not network. Carlos does.
The WC is believed to be tough. Everyone thought that the war wasn't going to last with the WC winning that it didn't, is a sign of the powers that supported the RC. The WC needs to change to survive but calling it weak is a bridge to far

COWL IS MARCONE
Put on your tinfoil hats people this one is a Crazy
Everyone says cowl is harry a future harry. But all the points point to Marcone.
Jim ' you have meet Cowl.' Evil laugh.
The every first villain we met is Marcone. Marcone has a fallen angel teaching him magic.
Give a century or 2 how much power will he have. Then he breaks the LAW and time travels. Boom mind blown.
Also explains why he calls him harry in the new novella. Think about it. After 2 centuries or more of constantly fighting and losing or harry ruining his plans its personal.
That explains why Cowl is so powerful. Not sure how much of Marcone is left. Or if Nams is wearing him to the prom.
But that just a theory a conspiracy theory. Bu hahahaha. *Cough*
All the points about Harry can also apply to John. Master of the future indeed.

This is a long one.
We are told that they hate each other. Ok cool. Then we are shown the ladies have a working relationship. Mab and Titania don’t talk becoz they hate each other. Fine I grant you they could act liasons. Even the US and the Soviets had Ambassadors. But here is where thinks get weird for me. In Cold days the new summer lady is reviewed to be spending to much time with the winter lady. No one in their courts says anything. Even in Summer knights. Maeve and Aurora seem to get along.
Mother Summer says summer job is to protect the rest of you from winter. Cool.
Then BG happens. And bob says that Mab and Titania fight as practice. In the end of the book when Titania shows up it seems she genuinely loves her sister. There could be other reasons why they don’t talk.
My tinfoil hat theory is that its an elaborate hoax. Summer is winter’s testing ground. Mab has a potential starborn she wants to test. Look at that we are going to war. Wants to see if her new toy or strategy works ready made testing ground.
Not sure Mab and Titania are awre of this
Also it could be that its part of the plan. Something from the outside, or someone who works for Outside needs allies naturally trys to recruit winter’s enemy exposing themselves. Just like what Nemesis did.
That’s just a theory a conspiracy theory
Couldn’t resist