Griffyn612 I am familiar with Simon R Green's Nightside. It had a street of gods to, as did Glen Cook's Garrett, P.I.It'll take a lot of power to sustain such a place in the Never-never. Otherwise, it'll end up inconsistent and two-dimensional like Agatha's demesne. Which means either a bunch of powers all contribute a little, or someone big contributes a lot. And such an expenditure requires a purpose.
It seems to be a common theme. I like the idea of places that supernaturals would gather to do business or have fun. And the troubles that would come from having so many groups in one place. :D
PirateJack While that is a possibility. I see this city as something that will stay in Nevernever. Perhaps when Michigan was sent back. Something of the city remained and that is what created/grew into this city. ;D
Thank for the ideas. Please keep them coming.
It'll take a lot of power to sustain such a place in the Never-never. Otherwise, it'll end up inconsistent and two-dimensional like Agatha's demesne. Which means either a bunch of powers all contribute a little, or someone big contributes a lot. And such an expenditure requires a purpose.
The only issue I see with a street of gods is that, in the Dresdenverse, what would be the point? If there are no mortals in the city, there's no-one to worship the gods.
Why would someone have to sustain something in Never-never? ??? Well if that's what it needs. How about it draws power from all the big cities in the world? As for why there's a city in Never-never. Well why not. Unlike the real world where someone has to build a city for there to be a city. No one has to do anything for there to be something in the Never-never. It is not simple a magical place, but it is magic. We are dealing with a magical realm where anything is possible. As for who's in charge of the city. Well I see something like the deferent factions of the Dresdenverse in a city counsel sort of thing. As for why they would invest in the city. A city in Never-never would be quite valuable for some and others would not want there enemy's to have control of it. Now for your final question. Who would worship the gods at god street. Why can't monsters pray. Why can't mortals live in Never-never. Sure the idea mite horrify Harry, But to use Nightside as a example. John Taylor never liked live in the normal London and despite the Hollow trying to kill him came back to the Nightside. Suzie Shooter felt that the Nightside the one place she belonged. Heck even Cathy Barrett despite nearly getting eaten by that house stay in Nightside. My point being that if people are willing to live in Nightside why not Never-never. Look I realize that to simple say it's magic is weak story telling. That not being able to explain something is bad story telling. And that your tired of hearing "why not". :D But sometimes it is not about how can that happen, but why couldn't that happen? So again I say why not and thank you for reading this. ;DDon't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to a city in the Never-never. But I do think it has to have an origin and purpose.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to a city in the Never-never. But I do think it has to have an origin and purpose.
In the Dresdenverse, the Never-never is basically magical potential without shape. The places we've seen are all shaped to purpose. Either by mortal belief or supernatural control, they're given shape.
Now what if we said that this city of yours was a culmination of mortal belief in a lost city? In the Dresdenverse, Atlantis was a real place. I forget which story mentions something in context of, " not since the fall of Atlantis".
But even if Atlantis was real, it's not tied to what humans dream of. So maybe all of that human fascination with lost and legendary cities like Atlantis and Mu and Camelot and El Dorado and Shangri-La found a home in the Never-never, where a city with features of each formed from the combined belief in them?
Human faith would seem to have power in the Dresdenverse, and supernatural beings would likely fight over it for themselves. But with no way to associate themselves with the legends, they'd be left with using the city for their own purposes.
Now, in regards to humans living in the Never-never, we know that they can't live there and consume things from there and remain human. That's established in the books. If a human stayed there long enough, they'd slowly lose themselves. In an ancient WoJ on the subject, JB said that as humans eat things from the Never-never, their cells are replaced by Never-never cells from Never-never nourishment. So if they ever went back to reality, where Never-never material turned into ectoplasm... So would they.
That's a great idea, but I've got a different take on it.It's very much a Green city. But I'm not sure how well it fits into the Dresdenverse. We don't yet know if the deities of that earth are aspects of reality, or simply the manifestations of human faith. Most likely both.
There is a city in the Nevernever that has always existed. It was there before the first vampire was created, the first sidhe born, the first angel fell to Earth. Neither Heaven nor Hell, it is something different yet similar, occupying that same thoughtspace that all universal concepts fall into. When the first mud huts were built in ancient Africa, their builders dreamt of this. When wood replaced mud and stone replaced wood, each idea was taken from this one, ideal city.
If you were to visit this city you could find yourself in a replica of a tribal village in one moment then transported to a scene straight out of a science fiction film. Every building, every town, every city ever conceived was based on something from this one, monolithic city. Yet if that is the case, why does everyone dream of this place? What connects it to mortal minds and what reason does it have for sending these visions in the first place?
My pet thought here is that the city is alive. It's the first genius loci, immensely powerful, and it's trying to have mortals build enough parts of it in their realm so that it can breach through the barrier between Earth and the Nevernever, manifesting itself in the mortal plane. Could make for an interesting end game scenario. How do you defeat a living city?
Now, in regards to humans living in the Never-never, we know that they can't live there and consume things from there and remain human. That's established in the books. If a human stayed there long enough, they'd slowly lose themselves. In an ancient WoJ on the subject, JB said that as humans eat things from the Never-never, their cells are replaced by Never-never cells from Never-never nourishment. So if they ever went back to reality, where Never-never material turned into ectoplasm... So would they.Wow! I don't know that. Thanks!