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Title: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: The_Sibelis on October 23, 2020, 12:31:19 PM
Is Rudy under a Geas? A compulsion not to see the supernatural? Someone mentioned this on a FB forum and if made me realize that would explain why he saw a fricken giant as a regular human..  it would also perhaps explain why he was freaking out so bad, similar to when Harry had to confront where his blasting rod had gone..
Title: Re: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: Conspiracy Theorist on October 23, 2020, 06:11:06 PM
No, he is just a weak broken man.
Title: Re: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: The_Sibelis on October 23, 2020, 06:54:16 PM
No, he is just a weak broken man.
what makes you say that? Despite his desire not to see supernatural things in the past he has at least recognized them. Mistaking a giant for a regular human seems extreme under the circumstances.
Title: Re: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: Dina on October 23, 2020, 10:06:10 PM
I will say, it is very possible. If that is the case, he could be even more of a threat than I thought. In the sense that when he recovers he will go for Dresden even worse.
Title: Re: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: Mira on October 24, 2020, 03:17:21 PM
I will say, it is very possible. If that is the case, he could be even more of a threat than I thought. In the sense that when he recovers he will go for Dresden even worse.

I agree Dina, I see Harry being arrested on trumped up charges and Mab in full lawyer mode heading the defense.  It isn't going to turn out well for Rudy.
Title: Re: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: Wicked Woodpecker of West on October 24, 2020, 03:32:30 PM
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what makes you say that? Despite his desire not to see supernatural things in the past he has at least recognized them. Mistaking a giant for a regular human seems extreme under the circumstances.

Well Jim sort of always in-verse explained that people are easy to disbelieve supernatural - which is tbh quite opposed to what real humanity always did in it's history - and kinda dumb :P
I'd rather go with Unseelie Accords enforcing strong Masquerade or smth. But hey - within what we seen muggles do in Dresden Files world - their denial is power on itself.
Title: Re: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: Arjan on October 24, 2020, 04:30:19 PM
Well Jim sort of always in-verse explained that people are easy to disbelieve supernatural - which is tbh quite opposed to what real humanity always did in it's history - and kinda dumb :P
I'd rather go with Unseelie Accords enforcing strong Masquerade or smth. But hey - within what we seen muggles do in Dresden Files world - their denial is power on itself.
It is. Belief is power. Lack of belief denies power.
Title: Re: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: Wicked Woodpecker of West on October 24, 2020, 04:37:37 PM
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It is. Belief is power. Lack of belief denies power.

If it was so then Rudolph's presence should banish all supes, jotuns, gods and Ethniu from state of Illinois :P

Title: Re: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: The_Sibelis on October 25, 2020, 11:01:22 AM
It is. Belief is power. Lack of belief denies power.
🤔 see now this actually makes me think of what mab said about love and hate. Them being the same force in opposite vectors.. he's not having faith so much as blind terror. The opposition of faith.. Terror? Ohhh, that's probably not good. Shouldnt one of the walkers represent terror more or less?
Title: Re: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: Wicked Woodpecker of West on October 25, 2020, 12:04:02 PM
I think walkers shouldn't really represent anything human.
Title: Re: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: The_Sibelis on October 25, 2020, 12:17:01 PM
I think walkers shouldn't really represent anything human.
what like fearbringer lol? Or so you mean  of have a human host, like Justine?
Title: Re: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: Arjan on October 25, 2020, 01:52:55 PM
🤔 see now this actually makes me think of what mab said about love and hate. Them being the same force in opposite vectors.. he's not having faith so much as blind terror. The opposition of faith.. Terror? Ohhh, that's probably not good. Shouldnt one of the walkers represent terror more or less?
Actually these are confusing words. The word faith originally means loyalty, trust, reliability and it is a two way street: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fides_(deity)

So the opposite is betrayal, disloyalty. Something the denarians do quite often.
Title: Re: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: The_Sibelis on October 25, 2020, 02:29:16 PM
Actually these are confusing words. The word faith originally means loyalty, trust, reliability and it is a two way street: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fides_(deity)

So the opposite is betrayal, disloyalty. Something the denarians do quite often.
well the Denarians are supposed to be taking the heat from the outsiders in an old theory of mine. Her matching what Nic said about the apocalypse state of mind. They're scattering energy so it can't be built up in one spot. Sort of like the Necronomicon dispersing energy by everyone trying to use it.
Title: Re: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: Wicked Woodpecker of West on October 25, 2020, 03:02:09 PM
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what like fearbringer lol? Or so you mean  of have a human host, like Justine?

Yesssss.
And I'd totally be for HWWBeside not being able to posses people totally, but slowly corrupting their very nature beyond choices of free will. Allowing Sidhe to lie, allowing Vampires to stand against true Faith and so on. But not necessarily full on curling mustache moments.
As much as I like He Who Walks Beside speech - it's kinda cheesy and this modus operandi seems to be bit redundant.
Title: Re: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: Mira on October 25, 2020, 06:52:34 PM
Yesssss.
And I'd totally be for HWWBeside not being able to posses people totally, but slowly corrupting their very nature beyond choices of free will. Allowing Sidhe to lie, allowing Vampires to stand against true Faith and so on. But not necessarily full on curling mustache moments.
As much as I like He Who Walks Beside speech - it's kinda cheesy and this modus operandi seems to be bit redundant.
Yeah, think stage one cancer, that is Nemesis infestation, untreated it grows, and finally at stage four it has morphed into an Outsider, and the host has little to no defense.
Title: Re: Rudy under a.. BG spoilers imminent.
Post by: Bad Alias on October 26, 2020, 08:47:15 PM
Well Jim sort of always in-verse explained that people are easy to disbelieve supernatural - which is tbh quite opposed to what real humanity always did in it's history - and kinda dumb :P
There's also been a lot of denial over uncomfortable truths. It strains credulity less than other explanations I've seen for how the masquerade is maintained.