They're trapped.More details if possible (In PM if needed), as I don't have the books, but I've read all of them. Don't specifically remember Ghost Story as it wasn't in my top of the series.(click to show/hide)
I'm interested in people's opinions as to if a building has no threshold, and a being that can't cross thresholds is inside it when a CoG raises the threshold, what happens. Are they trapped? Can they leave normally? Are the expelled unless they were previously invited?There's a difference between no threshold and a 0 threshold. Even a CoG doesn't create a threshold from no threshold, they just raise an existing one, but they do so, even if it is 0.
Does anyone else think Bless This House is underpowered? A +2 to a non-existent or weak threshold is kind of a fail. I understand that it can't raise a Threshold that's stronger than conviction, but I thought maybe it should raise it /to/ the conviction level. Thoughts?Remember that it stacks. If you have 3 characters with Bless this House in a room, you'll have +6 to the threshold, if their convictions are all above the base threshold. And there are not going to be a lot of creatures that will be able to do any harm against a 6+ shift block. A block that's sustained, nonetheless, so even if they beat it once, it doesn't go away. It is pretty powerful.
To me, the realization that Michael and Charity quite possibly doesn't even trigger their Bless this House in their own home kind of breaks it for me.The fact that they have a high threshold like that kind of makes it work even if they are not there, I feel. But they can also bring this protection to other peoples homes if they are visiting.
Does anyone else think Bless This House is underpowered?
To me, the realization that Michael and Charity quite possibly doesn't even trigger their Bless this House in their own home kind of breaks it for me.
They both have Superb conviction (+5). Thresholds for a home start at +2, increasing by +2 for each "homely" factor, and I'd say the Carpenter home quilfies for two upgrades (children growing up there, and they are actually building an extension themselves) putting it at +6, thus cancelling out the BtH.
The fact that they have a high threshold like that kind of makes it work even if they are not there, I feel. But they can also bring this protection to other peoples homes if they are visiting.This doesn't hold up to me, because the hypothetical family next door, that's lived there just as long, has kids growing up there and also builds an extension themselves are gonna have the exact same Threshold as the Carpenters, even though none in that family has BtH.
They should get rid of the extension that they're building. That way they won't get the +2 from it, so the base strength will be lower, so they'll be able to use BtH, so the final strength will be higher.This paradox really puts the finger on the problem with BtH by RAW.
This doesn't make much sense, but it seems to be what the rules say.
That's basically true anyway. It would take a seriously powerful creature to break in to St Mary of the Angels.
Unless WalMart had a chapel inside its store for people to pray...
Coming soon! (http://maureenmartinblog.blogspot.com/2005/06/wal-mart-superstores-to-introduce.html) You knew it was! Right? :)This BEGS for a Jim Butch short story, especially since Harry prefers to shop there. I mean, a story set maybe before Michael retired, with Harry and Michael in the store.
I kid. I kid.
Unless WalMart had a chapel inside its store for people to pray...
So here's a question for everyone. How would the Threshold of a home react to someone supernatural who had called the place home but been missing/held captive for a long period of time and was now attempting to return and re-enter?Two questions: