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The Dresden Files => DFRPG => Topic started by: Drazha on February 09, 2011, 04:06:36 AM
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Thinking about making a character that's a djinn. Any thoughts on what would be good for him?
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Some physical toughness and regeneration powers with a catch of Holy (as Jinn have free will and generally opposed to angels) or Cold (Jinn are creature of Fire and Sand) would be good for a Jinn, I also think Physical Immunity to Fire and channelling fire makes sense. Then you have to decide what type of Jinn you are you the shape shifting Kind or are you an Ifrit (strong one) which means you would probably go with claws and strength powers. There is also an option for making a specific Jinn magic under sponsored magic and that would give you powers over earth, air and fire as well as giving you the ability to use Conjuration. So depending if you want to play a melee Jinn or magic Jinn would decide which of these powers you took.
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what do you think for a scion of a djinn. Their was that toad faced guy who worked for madrigal but i would really prefer not to play a sharked mouth character
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what do you think for a scion of a djinn. Their was that toad faced guy who worked for madrigal but i would really prefer not to play a sharked mouth character
Per OW 79: "Inhuman Speed, Claws (those sharky teeth), and maybe a Supernatural Sense."
DFRPG gets this from the fiction, but given that our geek heritage includes D&D, which had a whole suite of elemental djinn subtypes, one could make a case for a variety of scion power options. I expect giving one Wings would be potentially over the top, but you probably don't need to commit to shark teeth if you don't want to.
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Hmm, from what I remember:
Jinn are supposed to be made of 'smokeless fire' or 'scorching wind' (and they are sometimes described as being made out fire, while humans were made out of clay)
They have free will, like humans do
They can be quite hard to some, something like heat shimmer in the desert
They usually have some way of moving around very quickly.
So something like:
Cloak of Shadows (variant)
Inhuman (or more) speed
toughness against fire
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Then, the more powerful ones (usually called marid or ifrit (afreet, efreet, etc) ) would typically have magic (evocation and/or thaumaturgy) rather than being very much stronger or tougher, though having a higher speed power (and possibly flight) would certainly not be out of character.
Some also seem to have the full range of shapechanging, up to being able to imitate specific people.
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Lesse what else. After Allah made man, the jinn were supposed to bow to Adam, but some (Ibliss, Shaitan), in pride, did not do so and were cursed or cast out or something.
I think this is also where the 'devil on the shoulder' trope came from, as there were supposed to be a faction of these bad jinn who would whisper to people and try to get them to do evil deeds.
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One character that might be useful is my jann lawyer (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,23050.msg990091.html#msg990091) character that I play in Amelia's Miami PbP.
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Some physical toughness and regeneration powers with a catch of Holy (as Jinn have free will and generally opposed to angels) or Cold (Jinn are creature of Fire and Sand)
Opposite element like Cold makes the most sense, imho, since they DO have free will. They aren't inherently unholy or evil creatures like the stuff that is vulnerable to holy effects.
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When it comes to the cold catch would that be satisfied by a cold day so any damage taken in December would automatically count as fulfilling the catch or would it have to be something like a spell or being locked in freezer stuff that would actually cause stress? I was wondering if it is the prior it's a really disadvantageous catch.
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When it comes to the cold catch would that be satisfied by a cold day so any damage taken in December would automatically count as fulfilling the catch or would it have to be something like a spell or being locked in freezer stuff that would actually cause stress? I was wondering if it is the prior it's a really disadvantageous catch.
It would probably depend on how valuable you wanted to make the Catch. Being desert (or other like climates) creatures, perhaps being in a cold climate is enough to satisfy their Catch (+2 or +3). If it requires you to be attacked with an icicle (+0 or +1), then you downplay the aversion to Cold.
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I'm thinking that djinn would have to be stated upon whatever tribe they belong too. Some stories describe them as being elementals and not just made from flame and sand. The Ifrit I see as having some kind of toughness and strength abilities and maybe some sort of fire ability (either fire channeling or some sort of made up djinn sponsored magic). These guys would definately be combat focused though with points in weapons or fists for claws perhaps. The myriad I see as being the big time magic users and maybe having some form of recovery, maybe even a speed boost. The would most likely focus on water magic though. The janni or the air tribe is described as being the most human like out of all the djinn so I would go with either inhuman or supernatural speed (maybe even mythic for the really really old ones), glamours to disguise themselves, and maybe the ability to take on a gaseous form to fly around. As for the Ghul or earth tribe I would have to go with them being the shapeshifters of the djinn. I would also tack on a feeding dependency to them because in some stories they are described as having a taste for human flesh (either dead or alive). As a jann I could see Glau having ties to this group since he had the teeth and all. As for the rest of the jann I think their they could be as weak as a clued in mortal and maybe as strong as the summer and winter knight if they have the backing of their parent or tribe. Strongest I could see without some sort of djinn magic would be white court/red court levels. Thoughts?
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When it comes to the cold catch would that be satisfied by a cold day so any damage taken in December would automatically count as fulfilling the catch or would it have to be something like a spell or being locked in freezer stuff that would actually cause stress? I was wondering if it is the prior it's a really disadvantageous catch.
Damage has to be cold by nature, not just delivered in a cold environment. They'd feel uncomfortable in cold weather since that touches on their catch. If it is REALLY cold (like below freezing), then metal weapons might satisfy the catch if the weapons are chilled. If they took stress damage from exposure, then that would bypass their catch.
Stuff like icicles should work, cold weapons (put an axe in the freezer and it will be good for a while), liquid nitrogen easily satisfies, cold spells, weapons made of ice...
Kind of hard to value generally, since it depends a bit on the environment and technology. In modern times it is pretty easy to make things cold (lots of ways), and easy to make weapons cold. So even in a desert it typically isn't too hard to get what you need, so this is a +3 catch pretty easily, imho.
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Winter Magics would definitely satisfy the Catch of a Djinn, and creates a built-in conflict.
Being able to turn into gas/fire/sand (can't remember the name of the power) would also fit.
I think the idea that 'holy' might affect Djinn came from the stories of Soloman binding Djinn into bottles, using the Seal to hold them in. This might just be a story, or possible the account of a powerful wizard
summoning and binding djinni. (Not sure he'd be leaving the bottles lying around to be found by random street punks, but whatever...)
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I dont think that every form of cold weapons should do damge on a fire creature, at least not a lot. If someone throws a piece of ice at him, the ice melts. Think of it simlar to the Farie Knights balanced Immunities to opposing elements. Though a cold piece of metal should do the trick. Hope this makes sense.
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I dont think that every form of cold weapons should do damge on a fire creature, at least not a lot. If someone throws a piece of ice at him, the ice melts. Think of it simlar to the Farie Knights balanced Immunities to opposing elements. Though a cold piece of metal should do the trick. Hope this makes sense.
Life is organized, a fire being is going to have some sort of order with those highly energetic particles. Toss in something really cold is going to screw that up. Icicle attack could hurt bad. A piece of ice, probably less (like a simple holy object with a black/red court...weapon 0 or 1).
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Life is organized, a fire being is going to have some sort of order with those highly energetic particles. Toss in something really cold is going to screw that up. Icicle attack could hurt bad. A piece of ice, probably less (like a simple holy object with a black/red court...weapon 0 or 1).
What kind of icicle are you talking about then? The reason I would give him some resistance is because he warms up the area around him, so that any cold weapon that came in contact with him not backed up with a cooling system would be rendered useless.
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What kind of icicle are you talking about then? The reason I would give him some resistance is because he warms up the area around him, so that any cold weapon that came in contact with him not backed up with a cooling system would be rendered useless.
Not saying it is going to be good for multiple attacks, just that it would satisfy the catch imho.
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Ok. I just find it amusing trying to make like Buffy on a column of fire with an icicle.
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I'm partial to the idea that the djinn have bodies composed of dark colored glass with fire burning inside of them. This could give them a beautiful appearance that some of them are described as having as well as fulfilling the whole made of fire and sand bit (fire+sand=glass). It could also the different color theme that crops up. As for how this applies to the jann i'm not to sure. Glau is a huge pain in the backside for me personally at the moment. I really want to make a jann/djinn character that's somewhat close to what Mr. Butcher had in mind (im a purist that way >.<) and how the jann has been displayed in the books has kinda been bleh. Glau is ugly, frog like, has a stupid mouth with shark teeth, can run a little bit faster than normal, is kinda tough, and can maybe run on air. Oh, and he's a good lawyer..... a sharky lawyer(pun intended maybe?). Not that impressive for something thats supposed to be born for what essentially is the equivalent to an angel. Maybe I should bribe someone into asking Jim what he had in mind for them at one of his book signings... /sigh
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AFAIK, there were supposed to be plenty of 'common' djinn. For comparison, Harry is 'served by many fae', and fae includes thing like Titania, Mab, and the Erlking so Harry oughta be an awesome power on this earth, right? :D
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AFAIK, there were supposed to be plenty of 'common' djinn. For comparison, Harry is 'served by many fae', and fae includes thing like Titania, Mab, and the Erlking so Harry oughta be an awesome power on this earth, right? :D
He is an awesome power though...isn't he? : )
Mind you, he could do with some more manners, but you can't have everything.