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The Dresden Files => DF Spoilers => DF Reference Collection => Topic started by: Griffyn612 on November 10, 2011, 11:17:22 PM
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So, assuming Harry is to stay among the living, he will probably be returning to the real world at some point. Maybe not at the beginning of CD, maybe not even by the end. But when he does return, what can he expect to have waiting for him, legally?
01) His office building was destroyed with military-grade explosives. They may even be able to determine that they came from/around his office.
02) His destroyed car was presumably found outside the broken-and-entered home of the local cop investigating him.
03) His house was burned down while he was there, and it started at the entrance to his sub-basement apartment.
04) Witnesses will place him at, and fleeing from, the FBI building while it was under attack from 'South American Drug Cartel Assassins'.
05) He was known to be at a houseboat not registered to him, where enough blood was found to indicate a murder took place. But not his, seeing as he's alive.
06) His file likely indicates that he has been involved with or at several building fires.
07) He has been arrested and escaped police custody on at least two occasions.
08) He has been implicated in previous events resulting in the deaths of local cops and FBI agents.
09) He may be tied to any investigation involving Molly, if she has been seen and recognized while masquerading as the Rag Lady.
10) He is a known acquaintance of a now-terminated local cop who was previously under I.A. investigation.
11) He is a known acquaintance of John Marcone, and rumor has it that he was possibly at one time on his payroll.
12) Further investigation may reveal that his destroyed home has been bought and rebuilt into a small fortress by a known gangster.
13) Further investigation may also place the former cop at the building, and associating with criminals and mercenaries at that location.
14) Most importantly, he has civil charges still levied against him on behalf of Larry Fowler.
And with S.I. under new scrutiny after Murphy's release, they may drudge up some interesting items in the, pardon the pun, Dresden Files.
01) Former warrant out for his arrest in the death of Linda Randall.
02) Possibly named at the trial of Mr. & Mrs. Beckitt, who can place him at the scene of another death and building fire.
03) Possible record of his presence prior to the building fire at the Velvet room.
04) Former warrant out for his arrest in the death of Kim Delaney.
05) Record on file of escaping police custody from the MacFinn residence.
06) Record on file of his presence at a multi-homicide attack at the C.P.D., and tied to building structural damage.
07) Possibly named by any surviving Streetwolves, placing him at the scene of a multiple homicide.
08) Record on file of his known acquaintance with and possible employment by a known criminal.
09) Record on file of entering a hospital with weapons, accompanied by a man wielding a sword and armor.
10) Possible record of his presence at the multiple homicide and building fire at a local mansion.
11) Record on file of structural and equipment damage at the Larry Fowler studio.
12) Possibly known as being present at a reported shooting in the parking garage of the studio the same evening.
13) Possible record of a man fitting his description at a part where a hotel received structural and equipment damage.
14) Possible record of a man fitting his description at the airport where a brutalized corpse was found.
15) Possible record of a man fitting his description attending a party at Mr. Genosa's residence, where a security guard was killed.
16) Possibly named in a report of the numerous deaths associated with Mr. Genosa's company.
17) Possibly named in a report for Mr. Genosa's ex-wives mysteriously disappearing.
18) Possible record of a man fitting his description at a multiple homicide and building fire at a local homeless shelter.
19) Possible record of a man fitting his description at a homicide at the city morgue.
20) Possible record of a man fitting his description at the event causing building damage at Bock Ordered Books.
21) Hospital record of his admission with a shurinkan/throwing star wound.
22) Possible record of a man fitting his description at the Field museum, both after and prior to homicides, damage, and theft at that location.
23) Possible record of reported damage to his sub-basement by his landlord.
24) Possible record of his presence at numerous homicides at a film convention.
25) Record on file as the contact for one Molly Carpenter, known associate of a young man named Nelson, arrested by the police.
26) Possible record of prints at a local theater which was broken into and damaged.
27) Possible record of a man fitting his description at an apartment building fire.
28) Possible record of his presence at the bombing of a police vehicle.
29) Possible record of a man fitting his description at a hotel with structural damage.
30) Possible record of prints at a building downtown which suffered a break-in, structural damage, and gunfire.
31) Possible record of a man fitting his description at the train station when there was a multiple homicide, as well as structural and equipment damange.
32) Possible record of prints at the destruction of the Shedd Aquarium.
33) Hospital record of admission of a known acquaintance of his for multiple gunshot wounds.
34) Record of his car being impounded for illegal parking.
35) Record of his presence at a homicide near the Borden apartment.
36) Record of his presence at an altercation at a storage facility, resulting in property damage.
37) Record of the mysterious destruction of his car outside a police officer's home.
38) Record of the mysterious destruction of his office building.
39) Record of the mysterious destruction of his apartment building.
40) Record of his presence at a shooting and possible homicide scene.
Forgive me if I missed a few possibilities. It's just a rough sketch of his possible file at S.I.
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So, assuming Harry is to stay among the living, he will probably be returning to the real world at some point. Maybe not at the beginning of CD, maybe not even by the end. But when he does return, what can he expect to have waiting for him, legally?
Definitely a spot on the most wanted list.
05) He was known to be at a houseboat not registered to him, where enough blood was found to indicate a murder took place. But not his, seeing as he's alive.
Couldn't he just give a sample of his blood to prove that all the blood was his?
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Couldn't he just give a sample of his blood to prove that all the blood was his?
How long would a sample last? Or would they simply run tests and hold on to the results, in case they needed them down the line?
In addition to his regular offenses, here are some interesting laws for Illinois and Chicago that could be used against him if the cops gets desperate.
Illinois Laws:
-You may be arrested for vagrancy if you do not have at least one dollar bill on your person. (Surely he's been in this situation)
-All bachelors should be called master, not mister, when addressed by their female counterparts. (I'm sure Mister agrees)
-It is illegal to give a dog whiskey. (Does Mouse drink whiskey, or only coke and Mac's brew?)
Chicago Laws:
-It's illegal to serve liquor to the feeble-minded. (Well, Mac's in trouble)
-Law forbids eating in a place that is on fire. (Now you KNOW he's been at every place on fire for the last 10 years, surely he's been snacking)
-People who are diseased, maimed, mutilated, or "otherwise an unsightly or disgusting object" are banned from going out in public. (Would his hand count?)
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-Law forbids eating in a place that is on fire. (Now you KNOW he's been at every place on fire for the last 10 years, surely he's been snacking)
You would think that if a place were ablaze, then you're first thought would be "Oh SH*T!!!!!" and concentrate on getting the hell out of dodge and NOT: "Oh, hmmmm - would you look at that, the house is on fire! Dear, get the marshmallows, will you? Now is the perfect time to make s'mores! Jolly good family fun, making s'mores!"
But here's the question: Do the police know that he's been roasting marshmallows while committing recreational arson?
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That's probably a similar list as the things in Marcone's file, and yet the cops haven't been able to touch him. The problem is, the cops can't tie him to a crime on any particular issue, and you can't charge someone with "he's involved in a bunch of things and has to have done something illegal at some point."
The recent actions will likely be explained as an attempt on his life (DNA on the boat will show it was Harry's), so Harry will just need a story as to where he was hiding and how he recovered over the past 6 months.
Oh, and I'm pretty sure there is an FBI agent that recently started to believe in magic and vampires. He might help keep Harry protected from too much digging.
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Oh, he'll be wanted for questioning. Beyond that, though, he'll be good, because despite his (VERY) long rap sheet, he's never been convicted of a crime.
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The White Council has been around for centuries. I'm sure they know how to cover their own when they need too and have the people in place to do so.
It wouldn't take much to make things cloudy. Just keep the reports simple. A suspect, White male, between 5'8 and 6'8, between the ages of 25 and 40 was last seen...... While they have not lied about Harry's description they have made it so vague that it could be far too many people to take it serious.
Don't forget that Harry is a Private Detective and a pretty high profile consultant for the police.. The police know that he would have his share of enemies and also might get tips that could put him at the scene of a few crimes. While that doesn't explain everything it would be something they would consider.
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Except he was a high profile consultant for a disgraced cop and was considered a waste of money by many other cops in good standing with politicians in what many call the most corrupt city in the world.
Tilly can only do so much for him.
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And if they check on his earlier life, his foster father's house mysteriously burned down, killing him. After which he and his foster sister mysteriously disappeared.
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How long would a sample last? Or would they simply run tests and hold on to the results, in case they needed them down the line?
I was thinking more "compare a sample of Harry's blood and a sample of the blood at the crime scene and notice that they're a dna match".
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I'm sure that Mab has a good attorney. Also that she will want her mortal champion to be able to opperate in the mortal world.
Plus the statue of limitation has to have past on some of that stuff by now. ;)
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Good post. Maybe the Warden's Dresden Dossier (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19774.0.html) needs to be updated?
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This is one of the two main reasons why he has to make his new home on Demonreach. He has become so notorious living in the city would be stupid because he would have constant trouble with the mortal authorities and because it would just needlessly endanger his neighbours.
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Good post. Maybe the Warden's Dresden Dossier (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,19774.0.html) needs to be updated?
There are a few things there that need to be changed such as the number of paranet members (its in the tens of thousands not in the hundreds) and the section on wild fae serving him needs to be changed from summer lady aurora to summer lady lily.
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05) He was known to be at a houseboat not registered to him, where enough blood was found to indicate a murder took place. But not his, seeing as he's alive.
Couldn't he just give a sample of his blood to prove that all the blood was his?
Personally, I would assume the immediate reaction is that Harry faked his own death. And even showing off the scars of the entry & exit points, won't likely sway that opinion.
I don't think he'll be accused of murder for this, but I would think faking you own death is frowned upon by the police. Plus, he likely owes back taxes. Since he's been gone a year.
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The White Council has been around for centuries. I'm sure they know how to cover their own when they need too and have the people in place to do so.
But why would the White Council start helping him now?
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But why would the White Council start helping him now?
In order to maintain the passage through winter domains?
Talking about the passage, was it linked to the duration of the RC war?
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In order to maintain the passage through winter domains?
Talking about the passage, was it linked to the duration of the RC war?
From Summer Knight ....
The Merlin stepped in smoothly. "It means that we must continue whatever
diplomacy we may with Winter. At all costs, we must secure the cooperation of one of the
Sidhe Queens-or at least prevent the Red Court from accomplishing an alliance of its own
until this conflict can be resolved."
At the end ... from Mab ...
"Of course. The wizards will have safe passport."
The implications are that it was until the war witht he Rams was over, but, who knows really. I'd say she'll allow safe passage until she decides she doesn't need to any longer.
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At the end ... from Mab ...
The implications are that it was until the war witht he Rams was over, but, who knows really. I'd say she'll allow safe passage until she decides she doesn't need to any longer.
Unless Harry has the authority to negotiate, in which case he could end up manipulating the Council, and pissing Mab off all at once.
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Well if Lash is well and truly back, he should be able to lie convincingly enough :).
Rudolph was really pushing it to get Harry into trouble and if he is found to be dirty, Harry will be able to point to him and say: "He was trying to set me up the whole time."
Also, the M Trust (Mab, Marcone, Monoc, and Murphy) ought to have enough leverage to protect Harry at least a bit, especially with the fall of the Reds. Since Murphy is running free after everything I would suspect that Harry ought to be somewhat safe. But will still be a 'Person of Interest.'
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Well if Lash is well and truly back, he should be able to lie convincingly enough :).
Not to Tilly. But he's on his side, the last we saw.
Also, the M Trust (Mab, Marcone, Monoc, and Murphy) ought to have enough leverage to protect Harry at least a bit, especially with the fall of the Reds. Since Murphy is running free after everything I would suspect that Harry ought to be somewhat safe. But will still be a 'Person of Interest.'
As for the House of M, Mab probably wouldn't have much authority in the mortal world, nor would she see the need; Monoc isn't established in Chicago, at least as far as we know, and I don't see a mercenary organization having authority with the FBI; Murphy probably has NO authority anymore, and Rawlins and Stallings can't stick their necks out too far. Sadly, Marcone is in the best position to help him, but there's two issues I see with that: One, that it would require Harry accepting help from Marcone; and two, that Marcone extensively helping the Winter Knight would put Winter in his debt.
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As for the House of M, Mab probably wouldn't have much authority in the mortal world, nor would she see the need;
Yeah, I see her response being, "You have a problem with the local authorities? Well, deal with it. I can't have my Winter Knight incapacitated." If Harry gets locked up, she'll probably just pluck him out of prison into the Nevernever, and then he'll have to deal with being a fugitive. He'd end up living mostly in the Nevernever and/or Demonreach.
Honestly, I think Tilly will be in charge of the investigation so Harry will be okay. He can even tell the truth. "I was shot, fell into the lake and woke up on an island alive, but in a great deal of pain. That's probably all you want to put in the official report, but if you must know, it turns out I was getting CPR from a faerie queen for 6 months until my soul could return to my body."
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Yeah, I see her response being, "You have a problem with the local authorities? Well, deal with it. I can't have my Winter Knight incapacitated." If Harry gets locked up, she'll probably just pluck him out of prison into the Nevernever, and then he'll have to deal with being a fugitive. He'd end up living mostly in the Nevernever and/or Demonreach.
Mab has a vested interest in the Mortal realm. Faerie is so closely tied that she controls the weather. Deals with Mortals increase her power. Deals with mortals of power even more so. There is a reason she wants her hooks in Harry. I am more than certain that Mab could make a Deal with the right people if she chose to do so. She has some knowledge of what is to come, and knows Harry is central to it. Now Slate or some other throw away I can see her letting him rot. Plus she ALWAYS pays her debts.
Odin (Monoc) may not be what he once was, but that is not the same as powerless. He has clearly been preparing, and he has Foresight to make the right connections.
I could see Marcone helping Harry just to irritate him. It probably wouldn't cost him much, and the look on Harry's face would be priceless.
Murphy has clearly built up some power in Chicago. It may not be 'official,' but that does not mean it is insignificant. If nothing else Tilly trusts her, and will at least give weight to what she says.
Plus there are numerous others that have an interest in having Harry roam free. Even some of his enemies.
Now at the end of the BAT I could see him getting arrested just as he thinks everything is going to be alright. He beats the great cosmic evil, only to be finally arrested by Rudolph :)
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01) His office building was destroyed with military-grade explosives. They may even be able to determine that they came from/around his office.
This really should cause them to want to question him. Not necessarily arrest, but at least question; especially how high profile it was. Unless, of course, in the last year they've already found a patsy and blamed it on him.
02) His destroyed car was presumably found outside the broken-and-entered home of the local cop investigating him.
I think the nature of the two-cars merging and the destruction at Rudolph's place may be so odd that reasonable explanation will be futile. Thus we can expect a "gas main explosion" from the house hurdling one car into the other type story rather than actual arrests.
03) His house was burned down while he was there, and it started at the entrance to his sub-basement apartment.
Yes, but the heroic nature of his activities afterward, and witness testimony pretty much covers him there. After all, a KotC can testify on his behalf, and even if people don't believe in them, they somehow always seem to be taken as honest.
04) Witnesses will place him at, and fleeing from, the FBI building while it was under attack from 'South American Drug Cartel Assassins'.
Actually, no, he left through the NN. No one ever saw him leave the building; and an FBI agent is probably prepared to vouch for him, so I suspect he is safe on this one.
05) He was known to be at a houseboat not registered to him, where enough blood was found to indicate a murder took place. But not his, seeing as he's alive.
I think they have enough eyewitness (or close enough)accounts to stand up to his argument that he was just injured and survived. After all, Murph was ready to believe that. And the boat owner isn't pressing charges or making waves...
09) He may be tied to any investigation involving Molly, if she has been seen and recognized while masquerading as the Rag Lady.
Not more than her parent's say, as a known associate, not as someone accused of anything. Plus, with Molly and Lea's illusion ability, it would be easy to have the rag lady appear dramatically different at different times, thus easily making identification impossible.
12) Further investigation may reveal that his destroyed home has been bought and rebuilt into a small fortress by a known gangster.
Ya, but that's just weird; not a crime.
13) Further investigation may also place the former cop at the building, and associating with criminals and mercenaries at that location.
But not at all related to him.
14) Most importantly, he has civil charges still levied against him on behalf of Larry Fowler.
True, but he's had those for years, and the rest are all old news.
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I think a lot of Chicago politians etc who were going after Harry and Murphy and not going to be going after Harry so much. I think the RC and it's lackys suggested to certain people to go after Harry. I think Rudolph was mind wammied. I am sure Marcone would prefer Harry to be more free to destroy his enemies so Marcone won't use his influence vs Harry. Perhaps the Fomor will soon use their influence vs Harry as Harry lays waste to them. Perhaps Harry should pay a visit to some of these important people making his life difficult and put some fear in them. Sort of like when he visited the female lawyer when she gave him attitude when he was questioning her, he did the floating bottle of booze thing.
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Yes, the place was on fire BUT it wasn't his fault.
As Krusty once said "Don't blame ME, I didn't do it"