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The Dresden Files => DF Spoilers => Topic started by: seanham on May 10, 2021, 07:21:14 PM
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During a recent re-read of GP, it struck me as odd that Ferrovax in at Bianca's party. Ferrovax is a god level being with great power and authority. So why was he invited to and accept an invitation to a medium (or low) powered member of the Red Court? From my POV, the only reason why Ferrovax was at the party was so Harry could meet him. Was this just a plot point that Jim planned out 10+ books in advance, or did Jim just want a dragon in his books? Any other ideas yall have?
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I suppose some rationale could be created to make Ferrovax's invitation and acceptance to attend Bianca's party make sense, but I think it was mostly continued world building on Jim's part. Letting us know that dragons existed; beyond Harry telling Susan about one Michael had fought, that they could change their outward appearance, that they are extremely powerful, and hinting we might see more of them in the future.
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Well he wanted us to know of Ferrovax. But I don't think it was a "low level" member of the Red Court. Apparently it was supposed to be a big deal for her promotion. Leah was also there and she was a representative of Mab.
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Well he wanted us to know of Ferrovax. But I don't think it was a "low level" member of the Red Court. Apparently it was supposed to be a big deal for her promotion. Leah was also there and she was a representative of Mab.
There's also the sheer casualness with which he put down Harry which was something we hadn't seen yet. Jim was telling Harry and Us how outclassed he can be when he goes in Wit Blasting.
Personally Ferrovax's introduction was part of what drew me into the series. It was one of the first true indications of how big and strange the Dresden Files would become.
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Bianca was doing a lot of kissing up at that party, unaware that she was merely a cat's paw for a greater power. My guess is Ferrovax was rubbing elbows with other guests at the party, the likes of Mavra, Cowl, even Lea, for the future, and if he got a little gold as a gift from Bianca, that was just the icing as they say..
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It could also be that he had some hunch about how important the events at that party would be for the world.
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Introduction of a character. As well as Bianca is inviting from the biggest and baddest to show how awesome she is....
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Bianca was doing a lot of kissing up at that party, unaware that she was merely a cat's paw for a greater power. My guess is Ferrovax was rubbing elbows with other guests at the party, the likes of Mavra, Cowl, even Lea, for the future, and if he got a little gold as a gift from Bianca, that was just the icing as they say..
I think you've got it. I doubt Bianca had any idea just how important her party would be--sort of a fulcrum for all kinds of powers.
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I doubt Bianca had any idea just how important her party would be--sort of a fulcrum for all kinds of powers.
I thought the party was a setup so that the red court could start the war?
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That too. But it was also about Lea and the athame.
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Ferrovax also defined Michael. And Michael is a big enough role that a throwaway bit about a scary visitor seems good enough.
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The guest list included key representatives of the major vampire factions AND key representatives of the many of the major supernatural factions.
Mara and Ferrovax were probably too senior, but then again their factions have very small numbers. So it is not that unusual. Everyone else sent a representative which is probably normal business. Given so many powerful factions were here, each representative had to be fairly senior. From an "optics" standpoint, the attendee list mostly made sense.
Of course, the political intrigue behind the scenes determined much. Mara was already training Bianca and actively plotting with her. Dresden was there as it was a trap. Thomas as an assassination attempt by his father and Lea for many reasons (Harry, Thomas, Politics, etc).
The real question is why no rep from summer? Or Jade Vamps? Or a warden from the White Council? Those all seem suspicious oversights although Jade vamps are probably explainable due to simple isolationist tendencies. The explanation is probably some variation of deliberate choice and/or misdirection. For example, I suspect the warden that would probably have attended was "distracted" by the black council agents.
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Harry was there to represent the White Council because he was the local membership.
I'll admit that it's odd for Summer not to have a representative, considering the other factions are all present, but maybe Harry just didn't see them (not like they'd want to chat with Lea's godchild anyway).
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Ya, I was thinking the same thing; I think it was said somewhere that Eldest Gruff is the opposite of Lea, so it would have been him if someone was there (probably).
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Harry was there to represent the White Council because he was the local membership.
I'll admit that it's odd for Summer not to have a representative, considering the other factions are all present, but maybe Harry just didn't see them (not like they'd want to chat with Lea's godchild anyway).
Or did not recognize them for what they were.
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Character establishment, alliance establishment.
We know Ferrovax's approval is for sale: We know he received a great gift from Team Cowl and was pleased.
It also underscores that it was more an unofficial Accords meeting than a party.
It also opens the possibility that Ferrovax is now playing for Team Nemesis.
I really wish I knew how detailed Jim's notes were. Michael showing up with his angelic support (he caught a vampire on fire for touching him) could have put the participants on notice that the archangels were intervening- and backing Harry. Who else was there?
The Courts move in tandem, so you assume someone mirrored Lea.
Was Odin there, as a balance to Ferrovax? Was Gard? Was there a Denarian representative?
I also have to wonder at the parallelism of Ferro-Odin and Mab-Titania. Is Jim drawing on D&D with a law-chaos axis? Or are the ultimate teams Team Odin and Team Jormandgandr?
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Oooo, Ferrovax being Team Nemesis opens up all kinds of new possibilities. But can a being of that scale be infected?
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Or another question would reality already be lost if a being of that magnitude was infected? I do not think giving presents at your party proves anything. Lea got one and we know where that one ended.
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Or another question would reality already be lost if a being of that magnitude was infected? I do not think giving presents at your party proves anything. Lea got one and we know where that one ended.
I don't think Ferrofax is infected. Jim's purpose for the party was to introduce characters and to set up future story lines. Cowl and Kumori were there, apparently they had the Knife [infected] that Bianca presented to Lea, which lead to events we are now seeing.. Susan crashed the party, which led to her being half turned, which led to the down fall eventually of the Red Court and the birth of little Maggie. Thomas was present, push Susan toward the vamps to save Harry, saved the Sword of Love, which he returned to Harry, which led to him finding out he was his half brother. Mavra was introduced, and apparently she is behind a lot of stuff.. So of those mentioned, though he has made a couple of appearances we still don't know who or what Cowl and Kumori are and how they fit into the series. Mavra pops up also, but she is still rather vague and I wonder if she will be supplanted by Drakul now? Yeah, Ferrovax showed up in Peace Talks, but so what? It was rather meaningless, he and Vadderung gave each other dirty looks and exchanged a little toxic testosterone, but Ferrovax did nothing for the rest of the book and didn't make an apparence in Battle Ground. One wonders if Jim merely put him at the peace talks because of fans asking him questions and because he promised that he'd make an appearance later in the series?