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The Dresden Files => DFRPG => Topic started by: surarrin on April 21, 2010, 02:34:50 PM

Title: Giving up magic
Post by: surarrin on April 21, 2010, 02:34:50 PM
So, a thought occured to me. In the books one of the ways that is offered to harry, to ditch Lash early on, was putting aside his magic.

Now, in game.

Could a wizard, who has pushed himself too far, has gone all out and smashed past the point of no return give up his magic to save himself from NPC?

So let's give him Evo, Thaum, and 3 levels of refine for -9 from a base 10 refresh.

Now he's gone all out killed half a dozen people blasted straight to -11 refresh adjustment putting him over that crucial point.

Could he give up his magic (Evo, Thaum, Refine) to put himself back under the threshold and become a Pure Mortal?
Title: Re: Giving up magic
Post by: Deadmanwalking on April 21, 2010, 02:37:00 PM
I'd say that yes, he could. He'd have to do it before the end of the current scenario, but yes, I'd allow that. It sounds and feels right.
Title: Re: Giving up magic
Post by: iago on April 21, 2010, 02:54:42 PM
It sounds and feels right.

Best rule you can go by, right there.
Title: Re: Giving up magic
Post by: Tsunami on April 21, 2010, 05:58:02 PM
I'd have him run around with -9 refresh for a time in which he can but can't use his magic. Giving up his Magic wouldn't be easy, he'd be tempted to use it nonetheless. It's like drug withdrawal i'd say (think Willow in Season 6 of Buffy. :) )
If he keeps using it anyway, that's a failed withdrawal -> NPC
At some point he'd loose his power and then the refresh would be open to be used for mortal stunts.

Also I'd probably have him stay at 10 refresh. Justified by sticking him with a -2 (the Vanilla mortal bonus) "power" along the lines of "Suppressed Magical talent", plus an aspect like "Warloks Anonymus" or something.
That way his Magical past is not totally gone, but doesn't help him anymore.
Title: Re: Giving up magic
Post by: Moriden on April 21, 2010, 06:33:09 PM
Keep in mind that -10 refresh only makes you an npc until the the first or second major milestone.

As you can tell im not a huge fan of using the refresh method to handle weather or not a character is playable anymore. Consider a focused practitioner with channeling -2 Fire, Hellfire -2, and lawbreaker first -2. is a perfectly playable character mathematically but is going to be much more of a gibbering mad man then a normal wizard who accidentally broke a law... once...
Title: Re: Giving up magic
Post by: iago on April 21, 2010, 06:43:06 PM
Keep in mind that -10 refresh only makes you an npc until the the first or second major milestone.

As you can tell im not a huge fan of using the refresh method to handle weather or not a character is playable anymore. Consider a focused practitioner with channeling -2 Fire, Hellfire -2, and lawbreaker first -2. is a perfectly playable character mathematically but is going to be much more of a gibbering mad man then a normal wizard who accidentally broke a law... once...

Point of order: Hellfire in the situation you just described would cost -4, not -2.
Title: Re: Giving up magic
Post by: KnightFerrous on April 21, 2010, 06:45:09 PM
Keep in mind that -10 refresh only makes you an npc until the the first or second major milestone.

As you can tell im not a huge fan of using the refresh method to handle weather or not a character is playable anymore. Consider a focused practitioner with channeling -2 Fire, Hellfire -2, and lawbreaker first -2. is a perfectly playable character mathematically but is going to be much more of a gibbering mad man then a normal wizard who accidentally broke a law... once...

Hellfire would cost -4 not -2, channeling doesn't reduce sponsored magic costs... and even if it did that would be -3.

Edit: and Fred was faster on the draw.
Title: Re: Giving up magic
Post by: Moriden on April 21, 2010, 09:13:56 PM
lol fair enough but such a  character would still only be at -8 refresh, perfectly legal mathematically.

2 channeling, 4 hellfire, 2 lawbreaker =8