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20 is right I think but I doubt 19 is called ferrovax. Still nice collection of information on the futur books.

How about Blood Raign?

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I think it's a WoJ.

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I'm afraid the most obvious problem is that while it's theoretically possible Marcone could learn to do some modest magic, he and Cowl were simultaneously present on opposite sides of the fight at the Raith Deeps in White Night. He also saved Harry from Corpsetaker and her ghoul in DB, while Cowl was later skeptical of Harry's claim to have escaped a confrontation with her alive.

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It is possible in the future John and Helen will make a deal with Outsiders for power to heal Amanda, but she dies anyway so they go back in time and become Cowl and Kumori. Or Cowl sends them back in time, as a last ditch effort, after being stopped by Harry. In other words John is just John until Cowl dies then John becomes Cowl, and the same for Helen.

Good poin. Don't know how I missed that. I feel like you didn't read my hole theory. Sorry, I don't mean to be rude.

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I love speculating about future books! I could use help finding sources to prove or disprove this stiff.
This series is perfect for that. Dresden Files is by far my favorite books to read currently. This https://www.reddit.com/r/dresdenfiles/comments/aijm5c/spoiler_all_theories_about_future_books_im/ is the best place I have found for connecting to other fans. You all are so helpful dealing with withdall between books. The community here is honest, fun, and friendly without being to meen. If you get excited about nerding out about your predictions I would love to hear them. Let's go crazy with this. The crazier and less likely the better, but I am equally interested in reasonable evidence based guesses. We know it's a 20 book series with an end cap trilogy. We know we are up to 16.

Does anyone remember a WoJ about the titles of the next books? Anyone know any rumors or theories?


16. Peace Talks: Peace treaty with Fomor. Secondary Thomas plot.

17. Mirror Mirror: Parallel reality, fix parallel reality. Secondary plot, need to get home? Maybe Susen is brought back with the real shroud right after the christmas eve story.

18. Heal Turn? (maybe): Pro Wrestling WWE. Secondary plot, heal infected? I think Lara and the hole white cort should be killed in this book. Would this work better for 18, divisible by 3 for vampires. Papa Raith would escape. Harry resurrects Susan, Elaine resurrects Aurora.


19. Blood Reign? Oblivion war, Ferrovax? If the white cort is still alive they die in this book. Molly dies and is brought back. Mantles switch to who? Susan or Aurora? Someone new?


End cap in this order?


20. Stars and Stones: Faith shows up. Denarian start the apocalypse in this book? Time travel. Go back again to fix your mistake from the first time? I think Nick and Marcone/Helen go back. Harry goes back after them then forward to find he died. So kill new Cowl then back to save himself in Proven Guilty. Then forward to kill Cowl again, and Lartessa is killed before Marcone/Helen go back.

21. Hells Bells: Go to hell git the bells. Stop Nick. Nick in hell, daughter in hades. Memory woke.


22. Empty Night: Raith. Ferrovax? McCoy backstab. Harry and Elaine dump mantles?

Theories!!! Let's speculate about the plot. Please tell me everything you have heard or think!

16. Peace Talks the series climax. War ends with mortals added to the balance of powers.
  • Justine is pregnant, the baby is killing her. Easy fix, Harry already knows Leanansidhe can seal off vampire hunger like Margaret did to lord Raith. So Harry will put off dealing with this like the parasite. This will make Thomas reckless and desperate, so he might die.
  • Harry is in charge of protecting the peace summit. The Fomor are planning something.
  • We know mortals are going to learn about the supernatural world. It's going to be big and bad, lots people will die. Maybe some of the senior council die? McCoy dies? I think the Alfas die and it's killing me.
  • Marcone and Raith will be part of the talks. Will we see Ferrovax, Nosferatu, Dracula, Svartalves, other gods we have seen?
  • Ive and Kincaid are in this book right? How is that going to go? I am so pumped for that Harry snark.
  • Could Murphy finally get a promotion to Valkyrie in the fight if Vadderung shows her favor?
  • I think the Alfas die, and it's killing me.
  • Will Cowl show up again? Like the last time a truce was being negotiated.
  • Is Nemesis going to do something? Let's debate who is infected. My guesses Murphy, Butters, Andi, Bob, Elaine, Carlos, Injun-Joe, and I think Harry, Molly, and Mab. Will one of them die? Obviously the last three don't die.
  • Plot guess; People show up and Harry greets them, interspersed with random attacks. Harry discovers the Fomor plan and cancels the summit. Big blow out that Cowl interrupts. Harry gets in everyone's face after to settle things peacefully. Someone is resurrected by the real shroud, Thomas, or Amanda Beckitt?
17. Mirror Mirror Parallel reality. My favorite premise! World building, time jiggery pokery.

  • Harry prime(H/P) is looking into a mirror and is summoned by a alternate Harry(A/H), who is avoiding death.
  • Who is trying to kill A/H? Someone we know, a friend? Carlos? A knight of the Cross? Thomas?
  • WoJ Maeve will be fast friends with H/P. I think that Mavra will be A/Harry's thrall, so H/P will work with her to kill A/H.
  • A/Harry is either a necromancer or a denarian, right? What if both are in this timeline, because A/H summoned a different Harry that survived death? The necromancer goes to Mab after failing in Dead Beat, but one of the other Harrys goes to Nicodemus, after escaping the death trap A/H put him in.
  • Do we see Cowl? Who else do we run into?
  • Does A/H make suggestion or insult that implies H/P is forgetting something? A memory he is blocking out?
  • What choice in Grave Peril created this timeline? I think it was the choice to face Mavra. Harry sead, "God forgive me". There are too many ways the story could go after that. Please give me any theories you have.There are several major pivet moments after this choice. In this order:
  • Stop fairy war
  • Refuse Lash's coin from Nick
  • Save Michael's kid from coin
  • Thomas doesn't eat Justine
  • Remove evil Bob
  • Stop the dark hallow
  • Remove Lash
  • Changes
  • I believe Changes was a Mab choice because Harry used the hallow and removed Lash in the past. So how would it have gone in different timelines?
  • What if Harry left Michael to face Mavra?
    He saves Susan, but Michael dies. Harry stops the fairy war but has a girlfriend instead of an ex fiance. Accepts the coin because Michael is dead, or refuses out of gilt? Refuses Nick, and saves Michael's kid. Keeps evil Bob to research resurrecting Michael, but doesn't stop the hallow. Goes to Mab for protection, but studies necromance with evil Bob. Summons an alternate Harry to escape White Knight. Removes Lash with evil Bob's help. Uses hallow in Changes. Is he still a Knight after that? Did he stay with Susen? Does he know his daughter? Is he good? Does Harry summon H/P in Peace Talks?What if Michael survived? How would that play out?
  • What if Harry left Susan to face Mavra? What would Michael do? Would Harry leave both?
    What if Harry tells Susan to face Mavra if she thinks she can, but tells Michael that they will intervene if it goes wrong. The next thing that happened is that they are called into the ceremony, Susan goes in with Mavra. Harry and Michael go in separately. The story plase out the same, but Susan can't control the hunger because you left me. Harry dies quick(poison fatigue) and briefly like before but escapes with blood loss instead. Susan dies a full vampire, or lives? Does Susen make Harry a half vampire?

    Harry stops the fairy war, but is doing thrall(lives) research instead or ghost(died) or vampire(himself). He knows evil Bob and has him in a separate sabertooth skull. Harry accepts Nick's offer, but gives the coin to Michael. Harry removes Lash into evil Bob. Harry stops the hallow. Summons Lash to escape White Knight. Changes? Does he have a kid with Murphy? Is he dating Molly? Do the Reds try to use Harry on the altar? What if this Harry is pulled into A/Harry's world?
Any theories about the rest of the series. Where do these fit?
   
  • The denarian and demons of the white god are infected. Mass Effect end for Nick, you can't stop outsiders if you are infected.
  • Who is Cowl and Kumore? I say Marcone and Helen.
  • Ferrovax is the Devil. The end is a big fight between outsiders and him.
  • How does Nicodemus start the apocalypse? Apocalypse myth theories?
  • Could Harry go back through time resurrecting everyone who died with the real shroud? Cowl wants t stop death but Harry ignores it.
  • Thomas becomes a knight of the Cross.
  • Murphy becomes a valkyrie.
  • Hells Bells upgrade; black staff. Stars and Stones upgrade; memory of dark hollow. Empty Night upgrade; outer gaits.
  • Does McCoy go into Hell after Harry to help him out? Harry leaves dante's inferno with the black staff.
  • Does Cowl use time to stop death? Does Harry use perfect sole memory to gain power? Who is Cowl?
   

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DF Spoilers / Re: Any news on Peace Talks
« on: January 22, 2019, 12:27:36 AM »
WoJ, he is up to chapter 40 I think. So maybe august. I would guess that there will be 50 to 70 chapters in Peace Talks. Then again I have just settled into the thought it won't be out till 2020.  ;P

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DF Spoilers / Re: Fool Moon unanswered questions.
« on: January 21, 2019, 11:58:38 PM »
I like to think Tera was pregnant with MecFinn's kid by the end of the book. I want to see a werewolf loup-garou raised by sion wolves in the end trilogy.

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 :) Thanks for acknowledging my comment. I have a lot crazy theories but reddit is a little easier to use.   

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I think Cowl and Kumori are John Marcone and Helen Beckitt.

There is little evidence for who Cowl and Kumori are so I have no sources or hard evidence. The reveal for them is going to be a big part of the end books in my opinion. The rhythm of the narutive is how I came to this guess. That and talking on reddit. So here are my clues.
  • John and Helen both appear in book one. The reveal at the end would be cool.
  • The answer to most plot holes is as single time loop. John and Helen to the end then back to the beginning as Cowl and Kumori rethrough to the end.
  • John and Helen both were devastated by what happened to Amanda Beckitt.
  • John wants to protect innocent bystanders from his business. Because of Amanda but also it's good for business.
  • John has already tried to save Amanda using supernatural methods, with the shroud.
  • Cowl and Kumori want to stop death, or at least Kumori.
  • Helen is working for John as of White Knight. She can use magic. But she doesn't know Amanda is alive yet.
  • Anyone can learn magic(WoJ). John can learn magic and can gain power. By using all the ways Harry has been tempted with and one more. He could make a deal with outsiders.
"Vittorio has been given power. That is how he can do this. He is possessed.”

I wished I could have raised my eyebrows.

Possessed by what? “An Outsider,” Lasciel said.
(White Night, Chapter 41, The Dresden Files, Book 9)
{Vittorio was working with Cowl and the Cercle(Black Councle) to stop the white cort from negotiating a truce.}
   
  • Cowl is working with Outsiders. This is obvious as of now. He is also a member of the Cercle(Black Councle). There goals are unclear but they have been a major player in the story so far. Helping the red cort, attacking the white cort, infecting Leanansidhe, and presumably behind the attack in Cold Days.
  • Time travel is going to be a part of the story. We know Mirror Mirror will be about a parallel reality(WoJ). Other than that it has been implied subtly that Harry can do it and should be able to already. Maybe he already has come back from the future off camera.
“Perhaps,” he murmured, “you already have.”
(Cold Days The Dresden Files, Book 14) (p. 212 ch.21). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

“Someone is bending time against us,” Kringle said.
(Cold Days, The Dresden Files, Book 14) (p. 408 ch. 42).

 “One of the Queens,” I muttered. “Or someone operating on their level. Can we get out of this wave?”

The Erlking and Kringle traded a look. “You are the leader of the Hunt,” Kringle said. “What you wright with your power will grace each of us. Would you like to do it?”
(Cold Days, The Dresden Files, Book 14) (p. 409 ch. 42). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

  • Some people think Cowl is Harry from the future. John and Cowl have been seen in the same place at the same time. Harry would have noticed any power from John if he was a practitioner, but John is the one of the most magic savvy vanila mortles(WoJ). It is possible in the future John and Helen will make a deal with Outsiders for power to heal Amanda, but she dies anyway so they go back in time and become Cowl and Kumori. Or Cowl sends them back in time, as a last ditch effort, after being stopped by Harry. In other words John is just John until Cowl dies then John becomes Cowl, and the same for Helen.
  • Nicodemus is supposed to start the apocalypse in Stars and Stones. I think his plan is to go back in time and at the same time open a portal to Hell. His presint self will go into the past, this would explain why he talks about time being relative and his confidence. He saw fucher self go into Hell so he knows he will succeed. I think Marcone and Helen follow Nick into the past.

So that is my hole theory. Harry recently got the real shroud out of the vault Marcone was protecting. It would surprise me if John does not try to use it like last time, but he might not know Harry has it. The shroud would be a useful in bargaining for help in Peace Talks, but if Harry tries to stop in the mayhem and use it that could git Amanda killed. I don't think that is likely though. Healing will more likely come at the end after the chaos is over, but it might not work again. Cowl is most likely going to make a move to stop Peace Talks like he did in White Knight, but stopping death for every one would be a grand finale move in the last books. Cowl will probably try to do another kind of ascension move absorbing whatever big monster shows up. So, what do you all think? Is my theory too crazy?

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