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I don't think there's a major character named emily in this series.
Elaine most probably. And that train....
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You say icky, I say potentially kinky considering the whole "she can make you feel anything or look like anyone" angle.

Its Lara, and all he needs is to learn Lea's "put the Hunger to sleep" spell to avoid being
eaten.
Without the hunger the attraction will be less as well. And lust is the only thing she has to offer. Sure she is intelligent and has a sense of humor but not enough to compensate for the rest of her character.
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Lea is rather unlikely, she does appear to care for him in her own way though.
His godmother. That is icky.  :)

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They're already effectively married, add a few scenes of them talking to each other and learning to understand each other (and possibly have Harry give her a nickname, see the
"Harry has naming powers" theory) and they may become shipable.
Mab? They are already shipped. People who want to ship anybody else must first unhip her.

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It really depends on what your definition of "lying" is. The fey can stretch the truth quite extensively.

And what Uriels definition of lying is. I assume that because he is speaking to Harry his is a mor human definition.

From Dead Beat:
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"You know, wizard, that I may speak no word
that is untrue. Thus is my word given to you."

You can deceive someone by telling incomplete truths leading to a wrong conclusion. Uriel and most humans would consider this lying because while all statements are true the underlying message is not. Language is communication and at the end it is the message that counts.

You can use ambivalent statements or statements that suggest more than they strictly mean. Human communication is full of that and it can make life interesting. But not in this setting. Again Uriel and most humans would consider the underlying suggestion a lie. Like the unseely accords the spirit of the text does not count for the Sidhe. But they know what it does to humans.

If we look at the lie/truth:
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“I have his oath, ancient one. What he has given is mine by right, and you may not gainsay it. He is mine to shape as I please.”

None of these statements are untrue. Only the last statement is open for different interpretations. Harrys interpretation is the one Mab wants Harry to believe but it is certainly not the correct one.

Like a sculptor and a piece of stone you are restricted in shaping it by the nature of the stone. The ways you can do so are also restricted by practical considerations. Some changes imply other changes you do not want. But nobody is going to interfere Mab trying.

There must be limits otherwise she could take any human and make it into what she wants. She would not have bothered with Harry.

Also while Mab can not change Harrys soul (Which is Uriels prime concern but maybe not Mabs. She just wants him to do what she wants and wants him to want to do so.) Harry can do so and Mab can try to make Harry do so. Harry should have been warned about that. It is what Eb said in Changes:

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“She might lean on you pretty hard. Try to put you into a box you don’t want to be in. But don’t let her. She can’t take away your will. Even if she can make it seem that way.” He sighed again, but there was bedrock in his voice. “That’s the one thing all these dark beings and powers can’t do. Take away your ability to choose. They can kill you. They can make you do things—but they can’t make you choose to do ’em. They almost always try to lie to you about that. Don’t fall for it.”
“I won’t,” I said. I looked up at him and said, “Thank you, Grandfather.”

That is what she was trying to do. Eb's warning was not enough but Uriels came at the right moment.

The lie is in the suggestion which does not count as an untruth because That was not Mab's saying. It was Harry himself.




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DF Reference Collection / Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« on: December 17, 2011, 05:16:14 PM »
From Blood Rites, pages 94-95:

You were saying?
Thanks for the quote. I should have done so.

He is clearly not under a fairy like truth compulsion. Reading this it feels like a very human reaction. It is like asking Ramirez about his sex life.

Some questions are very personal. Asking a half human entity what he is is like asking him how he regards himself.  He may have wrestled with the question in the past. He may even be lying to himself. And anyway it is none of your bussiness and you should just not ask a question like that.

Don't ask. Don't tell. And if you do ask you can expect a lie.

In a normal human sense it may not even be a lie. If they both know it is not true and know the other knows (and so on) it stops being a lie and is just a way of telling the other not to ask questions.

Of course Harry ignores this.

In reaction Kinkaid does not even try to be convincing. He just makes fun of Harry.

Compare with how Harry in small favor reacted when Sonya wanted to know what Gard was. 


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DF Reference Collection / Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« on: December 17, 2011, 08:04:51 AM »
He also just had some fun with Harry. He likes teasing Harry and he has a certain sense of humor.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« on: December 15, 2011, 11:04:31 PM »
Wasn't Kincaid also insisting that he was a vanilla human in that scene?
He was just protecting his secrets and telling nothing without lying.  You can interpret his words in several ways and that is exactly what he wants.

Lying to a wizard is not wise because he may have ways to check the truth of statements like Lucio did in dead beat. Not only Sidhe talk that way it is just smart to avoid lies when talking to supernaturals.

Kincaid may not consider a powerful wizard as really/completely human or he may consider himself human. He has a human parent and can breed with humans so biologically he is a human. What is and what is not human in the dresdenverse is not allways clear and open to multiple interpretations. He did not say he was a vanilla mortal. Harry isn't a vanilla human either.


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DF Reference Collection / Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« on: December 10, 2011, 06:11:34 PM »
My personal theory is that she and the White King, as part of the Black Council, were working together.  Both Mavra being there with vamps at the guard shack as well as Madge, an ex-wife whom purposefully avoids making contact with Harry, indicate Papa Raith knew someone might interfere and that it might be Harry.  Blood Rites was the White King's attempt to break free from Maggie's death curse.

Then why hit Lara and Inari? She was pretty pleased to hit the white court. She may know who triggered the Stoker thing.

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Did Uriel not get realize that captain Murphy was also protecting his daughter? If he did he would not have been be surprised by his actions.

Or was he not surprised and was that exactly the reason why he let Captain Murphy handle things?

 

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No.. we don't get to see what happens.  Which kinda sucked for me, I liked Bob..
Even worse. When asked Jim said he was not going to tell us. Which probably means that he survived with interesting complications....

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Well Jim has stated that Lash was in Ghost Story but just under a different name...
Both Lash and Lasciel. And both not mentioned by name.

Speculations everywhere but my current guess is Lash as the parasite and Lasciel as the fallen angel telling lies. I do not think Lash qualifies as a fallen angel even before she was changed but she does run on Harrys life energy.




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Harry got Bob when he was around 16. Hormones and what not...
And now he is into food as well. Never got a real chance for that with Harry.

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Not necessarily. He just said that she appeared "not under that name." She could have been the parasite.
Lash was already running on Harrys life force before White Night. Anything left of her after White Night would run on his life force as well. If lashes story was not over she had to become a parasite after White Night. She may become something else later.

I do not think Lash can talk to Harry at this stage. She would have done so otherwise and she would not agree with suicidal plans or try to help him survive anyway. 




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I believe if Gard had meant to deny that outright she'd have denied it outright, and coy implications are not an outright denial.
This is typically a subject where you can not really expect outright answers because other answers are a lot more fun and outright answers make it a lot more serious.  But I think her reaction quite convincing.

Besides I have read WOJ somewhere when asked if Gard was with Hendriks he answered that Hendriks was with Gard.

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,12157.msg535056.html#msg535056


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I don't buy this one; ever-virgin is a core attribute for Valkyries.
Not if you believe Gard in Heoroth. But I see nothing of Gard in Fitz description.

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Some random thoughts on Ghost Story and what comes next; some of which may contradict each other.

Will Harry be able to get word out to the White Council and his friends that he is alive again?  Maybe not right away, perhaps Mab will want to use the new Winter Knight as a secret weapon on her enemies.  Perhaps HD will have to carry out a mission or two before he can get word out and go home for a visit.
Or she wants to show him off to the whole supernatural world. She did that the first time she got him.

He went with her to court. Maybe the next thing is an endless series of audiences with Mab on het throne and he sitting somewhere below her. Those formal meetings can be very tiring ;D

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Whats going on with BOB!?
He is not gonna tell you  :(

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