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DF Spoilers / Re: Christmas Eve story - Huge question
« on: April 25, 2020, 04:05:07 AM »
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She turned Lily into a statue then put the mantle in her,  so while technically you can say that Aurora had chosen her as her new knight, she didn't really because there was still an imbalance.  Which is the point, Aurora wanted to start a war, so she turned Lily into a statue and hid the knight's mantle inside it.

We don't have confirmation of the order of events. It could also be that she made Lily the Knight and then turned her into a statue. Honestly, I think this is more likely, since I tend to suspect that bestowing the Knight mantle requires the person who it's bestowed on to make the choice to accept it, given that the point of the Knight is that they have free will.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Christmas Eve story - Huge question
« on: April 24, 2020, 06:35:11 PM »
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In theory,  according to Mother Summer, "The mantle returns to the nearest reflection of itself."
 But Lily was hardly that, and in fact Aurora turned her into a statue so she could hide the Summer
Knight's mantle inside her.  Then when she was transformed back and Aurora died, the Lady's mantle went to her as the nearest reflection.  I am not sure though how near to the mantle's nature Lily was.

I think Mother Summer was talking specifically about the Knight mantles there, and saying that only one of the summer queens could have hidden it.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Christmas Eve story - Huge question
« on: April 23, 2020, 09:20:20 PM »
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Here is another question, Maeve and Sarissa are Mab's daughters, at some point unless they are
the product of virgin birth, she had to have sex..  One assumes that Mab was also Winter Lady at some point in her career, so did she have sex and have her daughters before she became Lady?  Was there a special exception like perhaps having sex with her Knight which resulted in the birth of her daughters?  Or after she became Queen?  Then she had sex and had her daughters...  If the first, then one doesn't have to be a virgin to become the Lady, Mab already had given birth.  If the second, depending on who she has sex with she doesn't have to stay a virgin to be the Lady, her Knight the exception? If the third, well the Queen can have sex with whomever she wants.. Actually we know that one for a fact since she had sex with Harry when he became her knight.

The timeline of events is that Mab became queen well before she had Maeve and Sarissa.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Christmas Eve story - Huge question
« on: April 23, 2020, 11:32:49 AM »
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Hmmm?!  Got a cite?
Or care to share your line of reasoning?

It's fairly heavily implied in Proven Guilty that Slate used to rape Lily before she became the Summer Lady. Also, Mab seemed to have no problem with Harry sleeping with Sarissa, and Sarissa was her choice for replacement Winter Lady. Of course, Mab could have been betting that Harry wouldn't, but given the situation, I don't think Mab would have risked it.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Christmas Eve story - Huge question
« on: April 21, 2020, 01:24:04 AM »
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Telling him to be sure to tell Maggie who it was from also obligates him to explain just who his boss is—and what his job is. Therefore obligating Harry to embrace responsibility.

What responsibility is Harry forced to embrace by telling Maggie that he's the Winter Knight?

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Hmm. Being the guilt factory that Harry clearly is, I wonder how long it’ll take him to figure out that if he’d just boinked Molly, that she wouldn’t be the Winter Lady?

Pretty sure this isn't true. There's some evidence that the Ladies don't have to be virgins when they get the mantle.

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DF Spoilers / Re: How to break the Lady's Mantles.
« on: April 20, 2020, 09:28:58 PM »
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I dunno having rape being a fixture of Winter and then having Winter being the defenders against Outsiders feels too much like letting bad things slide for the 'greater good' and that's a slippery slope right there.

Well, there's a reason why Summer's job is explicitly to protect the mortal world from Winter.

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DFRPG / Re: New custom power
« on: February 04, 2020, 03:31:26 PM »
Why is the penalty higher for magic?

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DFRPG / Re: Assorted questions
« on: January 29, 2020, 04:21:27 PM »
Would shapeshifting powers be useful for a WCV? What non-WCV powers might an old WCV develop?

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DFRPG / Re: Assorted questions
« on: January 29, 2020, 02:06:25 AM »
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Are white court vampires considered monsters, even if they are being piloted by a pc? Outside of fate points what differentiates them from any other monster? Even if they look more human than most.

White Court vampires have free will, unlike most other monsters. They can choose to act against their nature.

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DFRPG / Re: Fire-related sponsored magics
« on: January 28, 2020, 06:50:49 PM »
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Hmm.  Not seeing any general-purpose "fire magic" or "earth magic" in this.  Can the tibicena cast fireball's or ray-of-fire, etc?  Manipulate gravity, or find stuff hidden underground, know stuff in contact with the ground, etc?

The books describe the tibicena as a creature of fire, but lava in the Dresden books is earth magic, and both the tibicenas and the god that created them live underground, so that's where I got the earth magic. I mostly meant it as "earth and lava stuff, but no gravity, magnetism, or other earth-type magic that gets lumped under earth magic," but I'm not sure how to say that clearly.

Also, the tibicena can't really do magic per say--it's more like a volcanic loup garou which is around a lot more often and with somewhat less rampaging. However, the wizard is supposed to be drawing a bunch of "tibicena energy" into herself so that the person can more easily control the tibicena spirit inside them, so I thought that that energy should be more wizard-y.

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When you say "dreamworld" ...  can it literally invade people's dreams?

Unclear. The situation was that a descendent of Coyote was asleep and dreaming, and then Coyote showed up in her dreams along with her cousin (another Coyote descendent) and took them both somewhere to show them something (which was sort of in the real world but not) and then the tibicenas saw them and chased them and then Coyote did something to distract the tibicenas and then both of them ended up in the real world somewhere else. I think. I'll re-read the scene when I have a chance. Coyote makes things complicated.

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DFRPG / Re: Assorted questions
« on: January 28, 2020, 06:13:44 PM »
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How about if all of the friends/family/allies/etc of everyone fighting on the side of the Longinus-wielder (that is to say, everyone NOT in the scene but connected to anyone who IS in the scene) get an immediate Recovery:  the most-severe Consequence moves one step less-severe, including Mild consequences just going away.  No tactical advantage in-scene, but a pretty vast & sweeping benefit (potentially to hundreds of people) out-of-scene.  People at death's door become merely "very ill," etc.
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I feel like the spear should have a curse attached to it.   The shroud already heals, the coins are cursed, the noose gives immortality with a Catch. 

Wasn’t the soldier who stabbed Jesus cursed?

Maybe something like every time the Longinus-wielder takes a moderate or higher physical consequence, the current injuries of all his friends/allies heal as if they were one step less severe, but the Longinus-wielder's injuries all heal as if they were one step more severe, and when it comes to the consequence that triggers the healing, the person who inflicted it gets an extra tag. That would provide healing, a curse, some tactical advantage (since it also clears mild consequences for friends and allies involved in battle, but also some tactical disadvantage to the Longinus-wielder, so there's still the element of sacrifice.

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DFRPG / Re: Bargaining with demons
« on: January 28, 2020, 06:07:03 PM »
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I can see some other person bargaining with the demon, demanding a potion or other magic-item "Made by a mortal, not a demon!  And made without any form of black magic attached or used in creating the item!"  So the demon needs a source of said items.  And it will explain frankly, "hey, this other mortal dweeb wants something that I cannot make, but you can.  I'm just tryin' ta do business here, kind of a middleman."

So the demon wants your wizard to create some small-to-medium magic items, and do so entirely free of black magic.

It's a plausible explanation.

The demon may even be telling the truth about it... sometimes, for some of the items...

Maybe.

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The demon may demand something "en passant" of something your wizard is already doing... say your wizard needs to track down a BadGuy(tm) before the innocent victim gets sacrificed on thane altar, and the demon will tell you where to find the BG(tm) and the Evil Altar of Evilness... and the cost will be:  you need to bring back some OTHER object you'll find there, and give it to the demon (like when Dresden handed Mavra the Word of Kemmler, at the end of Dead Beat).

These are awesome suggestions! I especially like the potions one. I've been trying to figure out why a demon would need mortal-crafted magic stuff, but your explanation works perfectly.

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DFRPG / Re: Assorted questions
« on: January 28, 2020, 05:45:02 PM »
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Also, it ignores the fact that Jesus was SUPPOSED to suffer and die there:  rather than some sort of "OMG it can even hurt God" feature, there's some sort of Holy Sacrifice thing going on.

There should be no direct benefit to the wielder, though maybe something for allies in the scene?  Dunno... it feels like any sort of "tactical advantage" element is off-theme here...

Maybe something like if the wielder uses the spear to cut themselves and bleeds on someone, any current injuries that person has heal as if they have inhuman recovery? Or something like if the person wielding the spear has to take a consequence in a fight, all their friends, allies, and any innocents involved get armor:1 for the rest of the scene?

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DFRPG / Re: Fire-related sponsored magics
« on: January 28, 2020, 05:41:47 PM »
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In the story you're looking to emulate, does the Tibicena have limits on the fire & earth powers?

In the story, getting tibicena powers means being forcibly transformed into a giant dog made out of lava who can chase people through a dreamworld and whose howls terrify everyone who hears them uncontrollably. It has incredibly fast healing, and is really fast and strong. When it's in full tibicena form, it can't be killed by mundane means; when in weaker tibicena form, it can be temporarily killed but will come back; and as a human, it can be killed. Every time it takes tibicena form, it looks slightly different. The tibicena's mind tends to overwhelm the human's, and as a result the human can't stay in human form very long.

In the book, a person gets turned into a tibicena by an evil rapist volcano god and, in order to get rid of the god, ends up bound to a werewolf pack. My idea is to bind the tibicena to a wizard instead, and have the wizard draw off some of its power so that the human can be more in control. The wizard gets tibicena sponsored magic because of this.

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DFRPG / Re: Bargaining with demons
« on: January 28, 2020, 05:22:14 PM »
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Have you read the Dresden short story The Warrior?  Overtly, it's about one conflict.  But at the end, Harry learns how his actions in the story had very very many far-reaching effects he completely didn't know about.

A demon could ask for seemingly-innocuous stuff that has those kinds of "hidden" knock-on effects...  "Go buy that upset-looking lady at the County Fair an ice-cream cone."  But what you don't know is that she's upset with her insanely-jealous boyfriend.  He's walking back to her as you leave, sees that Some Other Guy has bought His Girl a sweet treat.  So he drags her back home and beats her within an inch of her life.

etc...

That is absolutely an awesome idea and I will be doing stuff like that. But my problem is that I need one or two things that look completely straightforward to be the first couple of bargains. If the demon asks the wizard to buy a random girl an ice cream in exchange for valuable information, the wizard is going to go "you're a demon, you don't do nice things, so this must be a spectacularly bad idea." Later, when the wizard trusts the demon, it won't be a problem, but the first, second, and maybe third things the demon asks for have to be the kind of thing where the wizard will go "yeah, I can see why a demon would want that, but it's not hurting any innocents, so why not?"

I know there must be things like that besides portions of a person's Name, because Harry states that he has called Chauncey up for information half a dozen times before Fool Moon, yet has only given the demon two parts of his Name, but I can't think of any.

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