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DF Spoilers / Re: How did the Denarian know!?
« on: October 04, 2021, 02:10:03 PM »
Harry told them.  He discussed it with Murphy.  Anduriel was listening in.

I don't think Harry had to tell them, depending how well Mab hid the knowledge of it, it was out there for Anduriel to find out about.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mistakes Harry has made that will come back
« on: October 04, 2021, 11:00:42 AM »
It has nothing to do with cutting anybody any slack.  The sword hurt him not because he was a monster.  It hurt him because the act was evil. Frankenstein was a monster but he was not evil in an classic sense.

No, if he were a monster, the sword would have cut off his arm.. It didn't.  Earlier in Peace Talks Harry didn't feel anything from the blade during that practice session with Michael and Butters.  If Harry were a monster it would have burned him then, it didn't.  The Sword acted like a shock collar, it zapped him good, it brought him back to reality, he stopped, a monster wouldn't have.  In the classic sense, angels are monsters, so what does that prove?  Frankenstein's Monster was not evil in the classic sense either, he was considered "unnatural."

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mistakes Harry has made that will come back
« on: October 04, 2021, 12:05:33 AM »
Harry's a monster.  Showing remorse doesn't mean anything. A man might show remorse after beating his wife to death. It makes him no less a monster. The day might come when Butter's or someone isn't there.  And then what? And this isn't the first instance of Harry going into a killing rage.

A true monster in my opinion is a psychopath and or sociopath, Harry is neither.  A monster wouldn't have demanded that the people hurt and killed in the battle be compensated.  People lose their tempers all of the time, that doesn't make them monsters.  We tend to cut Rudolph a bit of slack for killing Murphy because he was paranoid, scared shitless, and totally careless.  Yet, many aren't willing to cut Harry a bit of slack, react, yes, but with merely a flood of grief, not violent retaliation.. That makes him a monster some seem to think, but left out in that scenario is the kind of pressure Harry was under at that moment,people were dying left right and center and he couldn't do much about it, then Murphy was killed before his eyes, he snapped, everyone has their breaking point.  Sanya and Butters know this, if they thought for one moment that he was a monster, they would have dispatched him, the Sword would have instead of a mere slap on the wrist in the form of a burn to bring him back to the job at hand.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Is Cassius death curse in effect already?
« on: October 03, 2021, 11:51:54 PM »
Namshiel obviously thinks that Marcone could drop his coin just like that.

I'd agree, but Marcone also knows he doesn't have that much magical talent without Namshiel, it is a match made in Hell you might say...

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DF Spoilers / Re: Is Cassius death curse in effect already?
« on: October 03, 2021, 08:31:57 PM »
Yes, to an extent Nick is manipulating the more powerful Denarians to keep them in line, giving them what they want, or keeping them on ice or marrying them. They are not a homogeneous body.

Thorned working with Marcone is a case in point, I suspect Nick gave Thorned weak hosts, and kept him on ice and isolated when he didn’t need him for the big stuff. His time with Marcone where he has been out of the box and had a strong host who cooperates with him like Nick and Anduriel, May be the best time he has had in 2,000 years.

I agree, then again, Marcone is also strong, if their agendas don't mesh, he is strong enough to resist Namshiel.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mistakes Harry has made that will come back
« on: October 03, 2021, 08:29:45 PM »
The Faithsabre says No! A blade which can only hurt monsters, and which Harry had had no trouble with previous, wounded him.

It burned him, he immediately snapped out of the state he was in.  Kind of a slap on the ass to bring him back.. Burned him a little, yes, but hey it could have taken his arm clean off if he were really bad in his heart. Harry felt shame and remorse every time he felt that pain, a monster wouldn't feel anything.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mistakes Harry has made that will come back
« on: October 03, 2021, 05:40:11 PM »
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In Battle Ground Harry came as close as he ever will to being a monster, that’s why Sanya and Butters were there, not to kill a monster (the Titan) but to stop the birth of a worse monster (Harry).

I don't think killing Rudolph would have made Harry a monster.  Now if the attempt had been unprovoked, coldly, and more importantly for pleasure, then he would have become a monster. 
Don't get me wrong, killing Rudolph still would have been bad and when he came to himself again, something Harry would feel guilty about for the rest of his life.  But in reaction to what he saw as the murder of his friend and lover?  Not a monstrous act at all.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Is Cassius death curse in effect already?
« on: October 03, 2021, 05:22:22 PM »
Nick needed Hannah Ascher for a specific job, and he needed Lasciel to take out Harry.

I think Lasciel wanted to take out Harry and Hannah with her grudge against Harry was the perfect fit..

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DF Spoilers / Re: Is Cassius death curse in effect already?
« on: October 03, 2021, 09:56:53 AM »


 Talent maybe at the OP level, but they'd never make wizard, sure they got some juice from the coin, but the only real magical bad ass in the bunch was Namshiel.  Ascher could have been a wizard but she went warlock instead due to making some bad choices early on.  Thus like Molly she was on the run depending on her half turned friends, when Harry did in the Red Court, most of them died because the mortal halves of them were very old. That made her bitter, take up the coin, and Lasciel powered up her fire magic more than it was.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Is Cassius death curse in effect already?
« on: October 02, 2021, 11:48:29 PM »

I think Cassius was a wizard, but a minor one. Harry is gaining in strength all the time, even if it is still there it may get shed in time. The same way Cowl was contemptuous of Harry's death curse, and Kumori told Harry he has shaken off worse.

I don't think so,  think Namshiel was the only one.  Since Cowl never killed Harry, he never actually received it, easy to laugh off a threat.  But Harry was a lot younger then, he has gained in more ways that one, including deciding on the kind of death curse he'd throw and take into consideration who is killing him.  Not unlike his mother, she didn't just throw a death curse for the sake of it, she considered who would kill her and how best to get to him... And she succeeded..  I don't think Cowl would blow off a death curse from Harry now.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Is Cassius death curse in effect already?
« on: October 02, 2021, 08:29:12 PM »

  Again, is it a real curse?  We know what Malcolm told him... When he was mostly dead, he fell from the boat into Mab's waiting arms.. Yeah, he heard in his mind Cassius's death curse, but he was only mostly dead, Mab was there so even if he was all dead, he didn't die alone.  If it means that all his friends and family die first, well, if Harry is the military leader of the BAT, that stuff happens...

One more thought, was Cassius even a wizard?  I think not, so there was no juice behind his curse other than to make Harry feel bad.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who will be the next Blackstaff? (If Eb dies)
« on: October 02, 2021, 04:27:57 PM »


  Finding out what Thomas's motivation was, doesn't necessarily follow that he will be healed. 

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who will be the next Blackstaff? (If Eb dies)
« on: October 02, 2021, 01:03:32 AM »
The return of the Blackstaff could win Harry an unravelling, which could cure Thomas of his demon, something foreshadowed with Susan

That could work, but would Thomas want to come back if Justine isn't there? :(

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DF Spoilers / Re: Is Cassius death curse in effect already?
« on: October 01, 2021, 06:21:34 PM »
You forget Harry has plot armour is a Starborn and appears to shrug off all forms of predestination - entropy curses, death curses, prophecy all have tried and failed. He is the ultimate champion of free will which means he is the White God’s chosen pain in the ass.

It’s telling that the Gatekeeper has trouble telling futures for Harry, the scene where he defies the White Council on Demonreach leaves the Gatekeeper confused that it’s too early in his timeline, and that he can’t win until Harry does something so incredibly stupid which is the epitome of free will in deciding to bind Demonreach.

A couple of things, being star born or not, predestined or not, what Harry's father told him still holds true.  If we die, any of us, we pass through that door alone.

Rashid had no problem seeing his future in Turn Coat, he gave him the odds of surviving against the Senior Council as low off the island, and a lot higher on the island and especially when he realized what Harry did.  I think there are rules that go along with having the eye that Rashid has.  I think it is the eye of the Three Fates, and rule number one is you cannot go around telling anyone what their future is going to be, because there are consequences for doing that, serious ones.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Could a Dragon hit Arctis Tor?
« on: September 30, 2021, 08:39:58 PM »
I think a Dragon would trigger Mab calling back not just her guard, but some of those 40,000-faerie-strong formations round about the outer gates.

And at 10's of thousands plus Mab to one, it might not be so easy, especially when the Mothers take notice.

Or a Holy Knight or two, let's not forget that Michael killed a dragon to save Charity.

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