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Derivative Plots?
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Shecky on May 08, 2008, 04:15:26 PM ---2) Combo of creation stories and first-person religion-heavy stories.
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You don't count those as inherently fantasy ?
Yeratel:
My great aunt was a voracious reader well into her 90s, and I remember discussing this subject with her one time. Her take was, "If you boil a plot down to its bones, in the end it's always about sex."
Shecky:
--- Quote from: neurovore on May 08, 2008, 05:46:36 PM ---You don't count those as inherently fantasy ?
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Yes, which is one of the reasons I separate fantasy and science fiction. Fantasy is perhaps THE original human fiction form (I wasn't there, of course, but it seems a pretty safe bet ;) ); SF has only been around since the 19th century. In fact, I'd class fantasy, mythology and legend in the same gang. Look at those very same "nothing new under the sun" ancient Greeks; a big chunk of their writing was fantasy, if you think about it.
SF's about as close as we get to truly "new", and even that builds on the same stuff; it's the mechanics that differ.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Shecky on May 08, 2008, 06:19:23 PM ---Yes, which is one of the reasons I separate fantasy and science fiction. Fantasy is perhaps THE original human fiction form (I wasn't there, of course, but it seems a pretty safe bet ;) ); SF has only been around since the 19th century. In fact, I'd class fantasy, mythology and legend in the same gang. Look at those very same "nothing new under the sun" ancient Greeks; a big chunk of their writing was fantasy, if you think about it.
SF's about as close as we get to truly "new", and even that builds on the same stuff; it's the mechanics that differ.
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Nah, the first human fiction was the good old fashioned boast: "I swear, that bear musta been eight, no nine, ten feet tall. And I think there mighta been two of them. No, Im sure, there were four!"
I dont so much separate SF and Fantasy because the only difference is that scifi calls the magic Science. The potion is just a drug, the monster is a genetic creation, or an alien, the magic sword actually has nano-bots in the hilt, the man could through lightning because of implants in his hands, etc. SF just takes tech across the line into fantasy. its just easier for us to buy since the 19th century because we believe in science now instead of magic.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Yeratel on May 08, 2008, 06:04:16 PM ---My great aunt was a voracious reader well into her 90s, and I remember discussing this subject with her one time. Her take was, "If you boil a plot down to its bones, in the end it's always about sex."
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There does come a point at which categories are so broad as to become useless...
I always used to hate it when people told me my frequent dreams about looking for books were "really" about looking for love, or sex. Especially when they were about very specific books that I very much wnated for a long time, and put a lot of effort into hunting down.
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