Mab (?) in Twelve Months

[Mira]

I think @BadAlias has it correct; faeries seem to play by different rules when it comes to mortal children.  Bob's remark tells us that simple theft (kidnapping) can give sufficient "right" to the child.  As the only blood relative available, I think Harry is absolutely the one with rights under Faerie Law to conduct any such negotiations.

  Which Harry attempted at Mac's place with Etri.  The problem was, though Harry claimed that Thomas was under the influence of an Outsider, the evidence that Etri had was that he did the deed on his own.  Etri was willing to show some mercy, but needed proof.  Harry couldn't get that proof because he couldn't find Justine, Lara tried to get that proof, but with all of her contacts couldn't find Justine.  Time was running out, Harry's only recourse was to go to Mab.  It worked out playing by the old rules, not by human law, the mercy was Thomas had to give up the child to pay for the life he chose to take.

[g33k]

... Time was running out, Harry's only recourse was to go to Mab.  It worked out playing by the old rules, not by human law, the mercy was Thomas had to give up the child to pay for the life he chose to take.

Yeah, it was a very, very old-school / dark-faerie sort of resolution to the conundrum.

I imagine Mab was absolutely delighted, on a personal basis.  More fun than she'd had in centuries, likely!

[Chicago_Ted]

What I want to know is why Harry didn't have Alfred take Mab prisoner after she helped him with Thomas, I would think he could have and he wants to be out from under her control plus added bonus Molly would take her spot.

[Bad Alias]

I don't think the mantle would have left Mab if she were imprisoned. And Harry needs to get out of the mantle "honestly," for a lack of a better word or Mab will get revenge on him.

If Jim goes by the letter of his deals Harry made with Mab, Harry can get out if Mab asks him for one more favor. This could happen if she needs Harry to do something that she has no right to otherwise order him to do. This could be to "lift a hand against those he loves" or just something the Queen can't command the Knight to do. There probably is something. Obligations run both ways.

Mab still hasn't cured Justine.

Harry should be starting to realize he is going to need Mab for whatever is coming.

[Dina]

I agree about the favour, something that people often dismiss.
I don't think Harry would have been able to imprison Mab without a "legal" reason. He is in Demonreach, yes, but she still owns him. Now, it would have been different if Mab has done something like trying to attack Alfred or something like that.

And humanity definitely needs Mab. Harry needs to find a way to get rid of the Mantle without harming her. I am wondering if we don't need to have a replacement for Harry before he can leave.

[Bad Alias]

I agree about the favour, something that people often dismiss.

Unfortunately Jim has said things that make me think he dismissed it too.

I don't think Harry would have been able to imprison Mab without a "legal" reason.

I think this one is strictly about power. I don't think it has anything to do with anything other than will and power. I don't think fairy stuff has anything to do with it.

Now should is entirely different.

[Dina]

Unfortunately Jim has said things that make me think he dismissed it too.

Yes, I remember having read some WoJ about that too, but JB is not always consistent in what he says, and until all is said and done I refuse to believe that the favour thing was for nothing.

I think this one is strictly about power. I don't think it has anything to do with anything other than will and power. I don't think fairy stuff has anything to do with it.

Now should is entirely different.

I disagree. Of course, i don't have direct evidence either, but i don't think a WK can directly turn against his queen unless said queen does something that give him the right to do so. But, about that, i noticed that this time Mab did not ask for permission before stepping in Demonreach. She had done it before.

[Bad Alias]

But, about that, i noticed that this time Mab did not ask for permission before stepping in Demonreach. She had done it before.

I think that was probably prearranged.