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Drakul and the Origins of the Vampires
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: g33k on January 27, 2026, 12:04:06 AM ---I like your thesis very much indeed, @Yuillegan; at this point, I suspect it's (mostly) spot-on; except for one small detail:I'm pretty sure we have WoJ that Dracula created the Black Court in an attempt to please / impress his Daddy. Drakul may be using Blampires, now that they exist; and his power (via his son) may ultimately be what's empowering them. But iirc (and always allowing that Sometimes Jim Lies, and that Sometimes he Changes his Mind) I don't think Drakul created the first Blampires.
Otherwise, I think you've made an excellent case (and my own thinking largely runs along the same lines).
Not "definitive" but an excellent corroborating point!
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There's a lot of confusion based on various statements about Dracula, Drakul, blampires, and the Black Court. The best harmonization of all the info, imo, is that Drakul created blampires and Dracula created the Court. I think the most likely answer to the confusion is that Jim changed his mind.
Yeah. Nothing definitive, but it goes Yuillegan's thinking, and it's intuitive enough that I'm assuming it's so until I see something that suggests otherwise.
I know I've said it before, but I also think the Circle is limited to thirteen members. Or at least thirteen chief members, e.g., Cowl the head of the wizard faction, Mavra the head of the blampire faction, etc. I don't think it will break down on such clear groupings, and I don't know who will be members besides Cowl. Mavra is just to demonstrate the rough idea.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on January 27, 2026, 12:26:33 AM --- There's a lot of confusion based on various statements about Dracula, Drakul, blampires, and the Black Court. The best harmonization of all the info, imo, is that Drakul created blampires and Dracula created the Court. I think the most likely answer to the confusion is that Jim changed his mind.
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That was my understanding too. Drakul had been creating a few blampires as a sort of elite praetorian guard, and been rolling that entourage for a long time. So long as there were very few of them, it was easier to keep their weaknesses under wraps.
Dracula basically said "these are awesome, let's make a whole court of them!" ... leading to the stokerlypse because those are too OP a unit for other nations to tolerate them also growing their population like mad.
Granted it's been through a couple of revisions - I think Jim did change his mind at least once on it.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on January 27, 2026, 12:26:33 AM --- There's a lot of confusion based on various statements about Dracula, Drakul, blampires, and the Black Court. The best harmonization of all the info, imo, is that Drakul created blampires and Dracula created the Court...
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???
Do we have any direct WoJ that contradicts this piece:
--- Quote ---Dracula was his half-human child, who naturally had enormous paternal issues, and wound up creating himself as the first Black Court Vampire in an effort to win his father’s approval.
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-- https://wordof.jim-butcher.com/index.php/word-of-jim-woj-compilation/woj-on-vampires/
(I believe that's Jim's 2015 thinking, so "changed his mind" has a decade or so of possible evolution ...)
Bad Alias:
I think there is a directly contradictory WoJ. I'll see if I can find it later.
I don't recall what's what, but we have in book statements and WoJ. One was that Dracula ran off and joined the Black Court. There's other statements about the age of the Black Court or maybe just blampires that makes them older than Dracula.
I just know there were a lot of at least seemingly contradictory statements.
Bad Alias:
This might be helpful: https://www.paranetonline.com/index.php/topic,54370.0.html
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