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Continuity drift - Lara and soul gazes

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prince lotore:
Honestly my questions about what people see when they soul gaze Harry all are around why members of the Sr council haven't done it. When Harry had to watch that kid get his cut off I thought merlin said that both him and Morgan soul gazed him. Why did no one do it at Harry's trial especially Morgan and if they did why didn't it change their opinion of him. Has what people see changed? Susan fainted but that cop in battle ground acted like Harry wasn't there to hurt him but he didn't want to be in the same state as him not thank God he is pointed at the monsters. And most of all what did the kraken see and why doesn't Harry brag about it making it flinch

Dina:
I don't think Harry would brag about that because it was a horrible experience. And about the rest...I think soulgazes are dangerous. You live all your life with the memory of something potentially horrible. And the Senior Council knows things about Harry (starborn, at the very least) that made them mistrust him. I do not think they want to risk soulgazing Harry. But perhaps is also because if they see nothing wrong and had to release Harry of any charge, Harry would know them very well, and that could be dangerous for them too. I mean, good or evil, Harry is dangerous and not someone to mess with, and he is now bound to obey Mab's word and (from the Council POV) perhaps even in a thrall by a white vampire or two. You don't want a person in that condition to know you intimately. At least, that is my take on the topic.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Dina on January 30, 2026, 06:24:36 PM ---I don't see that implication. We are probably going to see what Harry sees in the other Harry, but that is not what people see in our Harry.

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At the book tour event I went to people asked about when/if Jim will show us what people see when Harry soulgazes them. I didn't listen to it, so this is the AI transcription.

--- Quote ---it's going to be very, very hard to do that, unless Dresden goes and talks to people about it.
Can you have a little bit more emotional intelligence too? Have to clean all that off, uh. The only way it might happen is if you somehow. Uh, manages to to, you know, meet some sort of clone of himself. Which brings us to the next book Mirror Mirror.
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Somewhere later he says something that important can't happen in a short story, so we won't get it from another character's point of view.

On Harry being soulgazed as part of his trial, Eb does say that Harry gazed Morgan. It's in the early part of their first conversation in Turn Coat before Eb figures out what Harry is up to.


--- Quote ---“If he did it.” I shook my head. “I just keep asking myself who profits most if we axe Morgan ourselves.”

Ebenezar grimaced. “It’s ugly all the way around,” he said, “but there it is. I reckon you ’gazed him, Hoss, but it ain’t a lie detector. You know that, too.”
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Tinfoil hat:

--- Quote from: Fenrus on January 29, 2026, 07:52:55 PM ---The continuity here definitely bothered me, but I can see how it can be argued that she was playing Harry.

The main problem I had was that the soul gaze itself was a bit anticlimactic. The description of it was cool, but it seemed like in this Soul Gaze they both shared the same vision? Or maybe I misread it. And then it seemed like she didn't really have that much of a reaction (unless I totally missed it).

I was expecting a payoff from him saying bad A his previous reactions had been.

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Lara seeming not to know what a soul gaze is leads to so many questions.
1) how open are wizards to telling people what it is? Is it public knowledge
2) and how much information is out there about it?
3) how accurate is the information? Do the wizards tell people they can't control what one sees and how it is triggered.
Lara should know what a soul gaze is. She experienced one. From a dolist reason Jim wanted to reintroduce the concept. From a watsonian reason Lara wanted more info about them

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