Twelve Months, chapter one

[Mira]

I knew the designs would be bad aesthetically before I saw the first one. I never considered that the architects didn't know what materials to use.

They know what materials they should use, but using them depends on the short term.  Short term as in what is the cheapest and the quickest to get.  Usually very little thought is given to the cheapest and quickest now costing more later and taking more time because it will have to be done all over again at a later date.  Sadly politics do enter into it as well, that gets very complicated and ugly.

[Nooneofconsequence]

Wouldnt the easiest thing be to explain and prove why certain actions were taken? Which is to say under duress, at another's direction.  Making the one who commanded the action responsible, and the other just a tool? You don't punish the hammer.

[g33k]

They know what materials they should use, but using them depends on the short term.  Short term as in what is the cheapest and the quickest to get.  Usually very little thought is given to the cheapest and quickest now costing more later and taking more time because it will have to be done all over again at a later date.  Sadly politics do enter into it as well, that gets very complicated and ugly. 

There's also the well-intentioned "we'll put up the building NOW, with the materials we can get NOW, because otherwise folks will be unsheltered this winter."

Limited availability of "preferred" materials -- and limited budgets -- are all-too-real things that can force unwelcome choices.

[Bad Alias]

If I recall correctly, it was a bunch of famous architects who had never built anything in a climate like New Orleans. They just didn't know what they were doing.

[Mira]

There's also the well-intentioned "we'll put up the building NOW, with the materials we can get NOW, because otherwise folks will be unsheltered this winter."

Limited availability of "preferred" materials -- and limited budgets -- are all-too-real things that can force unwelcome choices.

Oh I get that, if you'll remember connected with that disaster was the FEMA trailer fiasco.  They built all those trailers for temporary housing, but when they went to use them they found out that, I believe, the insulation was toxic and they couldn't be used.  There is short term, and long term planning.. Both have to be taken into consideration, and rarely are.

[Lord Kinbote]

From what others have written on this site, Butcher has said that the demons that make the White Court vampires and the White Court mantles don't mix, which lead some to conclude that Dresden and Lara are unlikely to consummate their arranged relationship.  But in the released chapters of Twelve Months, Mab is pushing hard for Harry to sleep with Lara ASAP.

And given the apparent ground rule from those chapters that Lara can't use her Whampire powers on Dresden - and she's suppressing her demon for the dates - that consummation would occur while the demon is basically unaware/asleep/unconscious/whatever.

What Mab's play here?  Does Dresden or Winter gain some level of control over Lara or her demon if that consummation occurs while the demon is incapacitated?  Or is Mab counting on Lara conceiving a child with Harry?  There must be some advantage that accrues to Dresden or Winter for Mab to be that interested in Harry and Lara sleeping together at the earliest possible moment.

[g33k]

From what others have written on this site, Butcher has said that the demons that make the White Court vampires and the White Court mantles don't mix, which lead some to conclude that Dresden and Lara are unlikely to consummate their arranged relationship.  But in the released chapters of Twelve Months, Mab is pushing hard for Harry to sleep with Lara ASAP.

And given the apparent ground rule from those chapters that Lara can't use her Whampire powers on Dresden - and she's suppressing her demon for the dates - that consummation would occur while the demon is basically unaware/asleep/unconscious/whatever.

What Mab's play here?  Does Dresden or Winter gain some level of control over Lara or her demon if that consummation occurs while the demon is incapacitated?  Or is Mab counting on Lara conceiving a child with Harry?  There must be some advantage that accrues to Dresden or Winter for Mab to be that interested in Harry and Lara sleeping together at the earliest possible moment. 

I think Lara is simply being very-careful to keep her Hunger "satiated" when she meets with Harry.  It isn't "incapacitated," just much, much easier for Lara to keep under control.

I'm unclear why Mab is pushing for this; as you say, we've got WoJ that the WK-mantle issues around sex/violence and the sexy Whamp-mantle play together in uncontrollable ways.

I suspect Mab's agenda is either:
- to put extra pressure on Harry to find another solution
- to get Lara killed, by way of triggering Harry's Mantle
I suspect she has contingency plans for either alternative.

I don't feel I understand Mab's "big picture" in this, however!

[pcpoet]

we need to examine why Dresden's mom would of mated with a white court vampire and produce Thomas. I don't think Thomas was a laps of judgment I think there was a reason she did what she did.

[Bad Alias]

we need to examine why Dresden's mom would of mated with a white court vampire and produce Thomas. I don't think Thomas was a laps of judgment I think there was a reason she did what she did.

There is a WoJ on this that I believe was something along Thomas wasn't planned and he was the result of all the awesome vampire sex.