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Out Law, novella (?)
g33k:
--- Quote from: RobReece on July 25, 2025, 08:16:42 PM ---My thought was that TM would culminate with the wedding between Harry and Laura, but immediately prior to that, Harry gets switched with mirror Harry, so mirror Harry ends up married and not ours.
Book ends with that cliffhanger...
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I don't know if we're going to have a full-on ST:TOS-Mirror,Mirror repeat, with Mirror!Harry coming to bide in Dresdenverse!Prime, while Harry!Prime goes to Mirror!Dresdenverse...
I was kinda-sorta thinking that Mirror!Harry was gonna summon Harry!Prime, and they'd both be in the Mirrorverse together for a while, with no Harry at all in Dresdenverse!Prime. The thing is, if Mirror!Harry tries to sub-in for Harry!Prime, Mab will be able to tell more-or-less instantly: the man standing at the altar is not her Winter Knight.
Hence, "mysteriously-vanished Harry."
This would make for the most-awkward of return situations for Harry!Prime, when he gets back home: he will have jilted Lara at the altar, and disobeyed the Winter Queen... both in a very-public manner... I don't think a box of chocolates and a bouquet of flowers will make an adequate apology.
Mira:
Well, not to be the skunk at the garden party... ::) But since this has been the most anticipated book of the series so far, I mean we've been speculating for years! It could turn out to be the most disappointing.... :-\ I don't envy Jim the pressure he must feel when he sits down to write this book!
RobReece:
--- Quote ---I don't know if we're going to have a full-on ST:TOS-Mirror,Mirror repeat, with Mirror!Harry coming to bide in Dresdenverse!Prime, while Harry!Prime goes to Mirror!Dresdenverse...
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IIRC, at a signing or interview, years ago, that episode of Star Trek was the inspiration for MM, to the point (now I'm trying to remember what I'd heard...) that either he might have mirror Harry with a goatee like Kirk did or he might have him actually wear a hat instead...
That's why I think it will be a switch, ending the book with a switch back to the proper time stream. Then a good part of the next book could be Harry still dealing with all the stuff that mirror Harry messed up here. Since we wouldn't see what was happening here as we only get our Harry's perspective.
At least those are my theories...
g33k:
--- Quote from: RobReece on July 26, 2025, 04:44:09 PM ---IIRC, at a signing or interview, years ago, that episode of Star Trek was the inspiration for MM, to the point (now I'm trying to remember what I'd heard...) that either he might have mirror Harry with a goatee like Kirk did or he might have him actually wear a hat instead...
That's why I think it will be a switch, ending the book with a switch back to the proper time stream. Then a good part of the next book could be Harry still dealing with all the stuff that mirror Harry messed up here. Since we wouldn't see what was happening here as we only get our Harry's perspective.
At least those are my theories...
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I confess that a full-on switcheroo makes some sense, given the degree to which Jim seems to be citint the ST:TOS episode (and you're right: Jim has said that goatee's & eye-patches (and Harry in a Hat!) will be included!). FWIW, it was _Spock_ in the goatee, tho; not Kirk. But I think id-Harry in the dreams wears a goatee, so I suspect Mirror!Harry (who'll be "cooler" looking, and more id-driven than Harry!Prime) will also wear a goatee... more than a little foreshadowing, I think, and maybe some clues for how Harry!Prime can handle Mirror!Harry.
But equally-much to the ST episode, I'm expecting to see echoes of the old Jimmy Stewart pic, It's a Wonderful Life: Harry will get to see how very much he was a force for good in his home 'verse, how a darker Harry makes for a darker 'verse.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I confess that a full-on switcheroo makes some sense, given the degree to which Jim seems to be citint the ST:TOS episode (and you're right: Jim has said that goatee's & eye-patches (and Harry in a Hat!) will be included!). FWIW, it was _Spock_ in the goatee, tho; not Kirk. But I think id-Harry in the dreams wears a goatee, so I suspect Mirror!Harry (who'll be "cooler" looking, and more id-driven than Harry!Prime) will also wear a goatee... more than a little foreshadowing, I think, and maybe some clues for how Harry!Prime can handle Mirror!Harry.
But equally-much to the ST episode, I'm expecting to see echoes of the old Jimmy Stewart pic, It's a Wonderful Life: Harry will get to see how very much he was a force for good in his home 'verse, how a darker Harry makes for a darker 'verse.
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I can see that, we have seen Harry go into severe clinical depression in the past, notably after Grave Peril after Susan was half turned and left him for South America. The events of Summer Knight helped to pull him out of it, but at the beginning of the book he was in pretty bad shape. Yes, in Changes he did arrange his suicide but that was more about outside influences, i.e. Lasciel, which finally pushed Harry over the edge.. This allowed Uriel to intervene as we all remember.
Post Battle Ground, the death of Murphy, being kicked out of the White Council, being rejected by those he thought were friends like Carlos, the condition of Thomas, Justine/baby, all the death in Chicago, forced marriage to Lara, estrangement from Eb, financial struggles, and who knows what could be going on with preteen Maggie; anyway, I can see Harry coming to the conclusion that the world would be better off if he had never been born... Enter the Angel Clarence, or most likely Uriel, who tells him he can arrange that, and does... More lessons for Harry..
I can also see the alternative universe thing ala Star Trek, good Harry verses bad Harry, and as you suggest, Harry having to repair the damage when things go back to "normal."
But you know what? While both ideas might have been cool fifteen or so years ago when we first heard about it.. I am wondering if the time for Mirror Mirror has past? I mean we sort of had a version of it in Ghost Story. While the idea of Harry having to clean up the mess that his evil counterpart made for the next couple of books seems cool, if it doesn't advance the series towards the BAT, what's the point? I am tired of waiting sometimes years for the next book, the book is okay but it really doesn't advance the series all that much.. A few crumbs here, a few crumbs there doesn't cut it!
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