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Ghost Story--two things

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g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on June 23, 2025, 12:02:21 PM ---  I seriously doubt that Margaret had woken up one morning and had an epiphany, so decided to leave Lord Raith.
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Phrased that way, of course not!

But Mme LaFey, the noted waywalker?  Acquaintance of the Leanansidhe, whose chief mortal involvement rotates around inspiration?

I think the chances Maggie might become "inspired" to leave Raith would be substantial.  After all -- she has her son to protect, from the father who has killed every other male heir!

What better way to protect Thomas than to curse Lord Raith's Hunger Demon -- "leave Thomas alone, or you'll never be free to Feed again!"  And then she runs away, so Raith can't bring overwhelming force to bear on her...

A positively inspired plan!



--- Quote from: Mira on June 23, 2025, 12:02:21 PM ---
--- Quote ---Your mother found the strength to escape Lord Raith for a reason.
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That line is in the context of a paragraph where Lash hints at a why and the circumstances of Harry's birth.  While yeah, one can put the cart before the horse, but I don't think Margaret did in this case.
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I suspect Lash was hinting at much larger-scale issues, at the "reason" including much larger players, possibly up to and including the Angelic powers, much more than hinting at just Margaret's reasoning.

But I don't think we have much info either way; Lash's info is very short:  every moment of that accelerated-time was risking brain-damage to Harry, and brought uber-trolls and Outsider-possessed Raith a bit closer...

Survive now.

Convey secrets later!

(and give an ambiguous one-liner for the rabid fans to gnaw upon like starving dogs with a bone, for years ... )

Mira:

--- Quote ---What better way to protect Thomas than to curse Lord Raith's Hunger Demon -- "leave Thomas alone, or you'll never be free to Feed again!"  And then she runs away, so Raith can't bring overwhelming force to bear on her...

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Except that isn't what happened, Margaret left Thomas in Lara's care and left..  If her aim was to protect Thomas from the Hunger demon she could have taken him with her and then threatened Lord Raith... That didn't happen.


--- Quote ---I suspect Lash was hinting at much larger-scale issues, at the "reason" including much larger players, possibly up to and including the Angelic powers, much more than hinting at just Margaret's reasoning.

But I don't think we have much info either way; Lash's info is very short:  every moment of that accelerated-time was risking brain-damage to Harry, and brought uber-trolls and Outsider-possessed Raith a bit closer...

Survive now.

Convey secrets later!
(and give an ambiguous one-liner for the rabid fans to gnaw upon like starving dogs with a bone, for years ... )
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Perhaps if it were merely an ambiguous one liner.  However given in context, it isn't an ambiguous one liner at all...  The context of what Chauncy told Harry about how they were ready to receive his mother, then things changed and she was lost to them.  The constant repeating through out the series of Harry inheriting his father's good nature.. Malcolm's good heart, this is what sets Harry apart from the other star born we've met.  Margaret wasn't going to leave Lord Raith, she was bad news, she had done plenty of evil, we have Luccio's word on that,  then she changed, she redeemed herself..  What is the one thing that check mates the White Court?  Love.. Margaret met and fell in love with Malcolm, true love.. It gave her the courage to leave Lord Raith, and I bet when it is all sorted out, love is the magic ingredient that Margaret put into her death curse that thwarts Lord Raith's Hunger Demon, and that his Outsider protection cannot combat, so Lord Raith lives on even as he starves..

Dina:
Mira, I agree with you about what Chauncy said and about how important is Malcolm's goodness and Margaret's love for him. However, I don't agree with the first part of your post. Leaving with Thomas was not so easy. Officially he was the prince of the White Court. All the White court would pursue her. Yes, leaving Lord Raith was dangerous. He was a very powerful man, both magically and socially. He had means for having his revenge. But he was not as motivated as he has been if Maggie had taken his child. Not because he loved Thomas but because what he represented.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Dina on June 26, 2025, 03:57:05 AM ---Mira, I agree with you about what Chauncy said and about how important is Malcolm's goodness and Margaret's love for him. However, I don't agree with the first part of your post. Leaving with Thomas was not so easy. Officially he was the prince of the White Court. All the White court would pursue her. Yes, leaving Lord Raith was dangerous. He was a very powerful man, both magically and socially. He had means for having his revenge. But he was not as motivated as he has been if Maggie had taken his child. Not because he loved Thomas but because what he represented.

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But the point is Dina, that Margaret still left, and without Thomas.  For a woman to decide to leave her child behind is huge!  That just doesn't happen in a vacuum, as Lash told Harry, she found the strength to leave Lord Raith for a reason.  Margaret could very well have thought that Thomas was safer with Lara than going with her.  She must have also explained it to young Thomas in such a way that he understood, or she had Lara do it, because as of now we haven't seen any resentment of this on the part of Thomas.  In a lot of respects none of it makes sense, yes, you can argue that Thomas was safer being left behind, but that didn't make Lord Raith less likely to want to murder Margaret, Malcolm, and yes, their child, Harry.  I am still of the opinion that Margaret found that strength to leave because she met Malcolm, suddenly saw the world differently and found the strength to leave her only child behind and Lord Raith.. 

Dina:
Again, I am not sure Raith knew about Margaret having another child. I am not even sure he knew about Malcolm.
I always wondered in what context a stage magician met the wife of a vampire, who is a witch.

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