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Ghost Story--two things

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Talby16:

--- Quote from: g33k on June 08, 2025, 04:02:57 AM ---GS took me a while to come to grips with it, but I did so by about 1/3 - 1/2 way through, and enjoyed the rest (and all of each re-read) very much.

I think Winter -- or at least the Winter Knight -- is very physical, very embodied, very animal.
Winter has very little traction with a ghost/soul.

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Agreed. I would add that Winter is about the primal urges. A ghost transcends the physical and the primal urges no longer impact it.

EBRIEN:
When Harry wasn't quite dead...Would Papa Wraith have been able to feed? Or feel twinges of his former self?

Can you imagine? He's like...Ummm...that's a familiar feeling...Could it be? Maybe? .....crap. Nope.

Mira:

--- Quote from: EBRIEN on June 12, 2025, 02:34:44 PM ---When Harry wasn't quite dead...Would Papa Wraith have been able to feed? Or feel twinges of his former self?

Can you imagine? He's like...Ummm...that's a familiar feeling...Could it be? Maybe? .....crap. Nope.

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Since it was Margaret's death curse that caused Papa Raith not to feed, I don't think it makes any difference whether Harry is alive or dead or only mostly dead, Papa Raith won't be able to feed.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on June 12, 2025, 07:12:43 PM --- Since it was Margaret's death curse that caused Papa Raith not to feed, I don't think it makes any difference whether Harry is alive or dead or only mostly dead, Papa Raith won't be able to feed.
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IIRC, Papa thought that sacrificing Harry and/or Thomas was the way to escape Margaret's curse.

I presume he had some reason to think so... and he may even have been correct (or may not have been; I don't think anyone but Jim understands the Dresdenverse magical metaphysics well enough to know).

However, Harry's semideath -- years later, outside of Raith's careful ritual prep, and metaphysically as Harry's self-sacrifice (made for love) -- almost certainly wouldn't have fulfilled Raith's needs in this regard.
 

Mira:

--- Quote ---IIRC, Papa thought that sacrificing Harry and/or Thomas was the way to escape Margaret's curse.

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 If Papa Raith thought it would work, he could have sacrificed one of them at any time, especially Thomas.

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