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Ghost Story--two things
Dina:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 19, 2025, 09:43:02 PM ---Somehow I don't think so if Malcolm was as good a man as everyone says he was. I think I remember Harry talking about a photo that he had and lost in the fire of his mother pregnant with him and his father and how happy they looked. If there were a lot of twists and turns I think it would all be on Winter's part.
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I agree. I can imagine Maggie wanting a Starborn, but I think she truly loved Malcom and Malcolm loved her.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Lord Kinbote on June 19, 2025, 03:51:17 PM ---I haven't been following the ins and outs, the nuances, of this conversation but has anyone made the point that Maggie Sr. may have made a Rumpelstiltskin-like bargain with Lea/Mab? ...
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My own WAG is that Mab/Lea dropped a few hints/clues about the "Starborn" situation.
Enough for Maggie Sr. to want to learn more... eventually, to believe she "figured it out, despite the faerie obfuscation." Mab's the kind of long-planning master-manipulator who could pull off exactly that sort of thing, with an eye towards getting herself a Starborn Winterknight.
--- Quote from: Lord Kinbote on June 19, 2025, 03:51:17 PM --- ... Maybe Maggie Sr., knowing of the WC's involvement with the Outsiders and what their end-game was, bargained for help escaping and being protect from the White Court in exchange for help becoming impregnated and birthing Harry as a Starborn? And maybe Maggie Sr.'s seemingly quick and short marriage to Harry's dad was all part of the bargain/plan? And maybe the mother's death - and maybe the father's - is part and parcel of birthing a Starborn? So maybe Harry has to come with grips with though loved by his parents, their union was more mercenary and wasn't 'just a girl standing in front of a boy, asking him to love her,' that he was intentionally created for a pre-planned purpose via a Maggie Sr./Mab scheme? A lot of maybes but I think Jim wants something potentially soul crushing that Harry has to deal with and find some measure of peace with.
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That's a LOT of maybe's. I'm pretty sure they're mistaken, though...
I can't go trawling through the archives right now, but I'm pretty sure there's WoJ that Margaret meeting Malcom while on the run was unplanned/serendipitous (by which I suspect Jim may mean "it was actually Uriel's doing").
If Mab is a "master-manipulator," Uriel has the strands of fate at his fingertips.
Mira:
--- Quote ---If Mab is a "master-manipulator," Uriel has the strands of fate at his fingertips.
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The interesting bit is what Chauncy told Harry way back in Full Moon, that his boss and company were ready to receive Margaret with open arms.. She was one of theirs, bad news, then something changed and she escaped their grasp. That something was Malcolm, does a thing like meeting the right man at exactly the right time just happen by accident?
Dina:
If it was Uriel, it was under the WG orders, I believe.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Dina on June 21, 2025, 02:31:10 AM ---If it was Uriel, it was under the WG orders, I believe.
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I agree. :)
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