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Murphy
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on September 30, 2025, 04:25:53 PM ---We'll have to see how Jim writes it, of course.
But no: just because someone "rejects" Heaven, it doesn't at all take things "out of Uriel's hands." Maybe other angels don't engage, but... Uriel??!?
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Uriel is limited, he might be an archangel but his power is limited by very serious rules.
Dina:
I do not think Murphy rejected Heaven, she just pressed "remind me later".
Mira:
--- Quote from: Dina on September 30, 2025, 10:49:38 PM ---I do not think Murphy rejected Heaven, she just pressed "remind me later".
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Perhaps, but
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 30, 2025, 09:36:01 PM --- Uriel is limited, he might be an archangel but his power is limited by very serious rules.
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He is limited by the rules; but perhaps not so much as you think.
Remember that in Ghost Story, Uriel intentionally misleads Harry, enabled because one of the Fallen had previously misled him (in Changes).
If my WAG is correct, Gard/Vadderung is similarly "misleading" Murphy into joining as an Einherjar, in part by implying a more-passive / less-engaged role with the "White God." The "rules" that Murphy is led to break are Odin's rules. Obviously, my WAG may be wildly off-base!
Mira:
--- Quote ---Remember that in Ghost Story, Uriel intentionally misleads Harry, enabled because one of the Fallen had previously misled him
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Uriel was only able to intervene because Lasciel lied to Harry pushing him to suicide. Otherwise I don't believe he would have been allowed to, I believe Uriel says as much. I would have to go back and read, but I think Uriel says that was the only reason why.
--- Quote ---If my WAG is correct, Gard/Vadderung is similarly "misleading" Murphy into joining as an Einherjar, in part by implying a more-passive / less-engaged role with the "White God." The "rules" that Murphy is led to break are Odin's rules. Obviously, my WAG may be wildly off-base!
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However I don't think you can say that Murphy was misled, she was well acquainted with the Einherjar a long time before she died.
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