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Choices
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on April 17, 2025, 08:00:37 PM ---A change in a moment only ripples forward in time, though.
Harry's choice in GP can't have touched Murphy's childhood, upbringing, young adulthood, etc.
She was a truly-good person going into GP; only one Murphy.
There is potential for change by the end of it, Mirror!Murphy's life begins to diverge (as do others).
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A stone tossed in a lake sends out ripples in all directions.. And as far as that goes, Murphy and Harry's lives touched from The
Restoration of Faith.. However if Harry's choice changes the world, it changes everything around him as well, not just him. That's why time travel is so dangerous.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on April 18, 2025, 01:17:40 AM --- A stone tossed in a lake sends out ripples in all directions..
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Your simile is misleading; time has flow, an inherent direction. It is not a placid lake amenable to "ripples in all directions."
An event has consequences moving forward in time. Causality does not go backwards (until you time-travel backwards -- but then only forward again, from whatever point you insert yourself).
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on April 18, 2025, 03:27:41 PM ---Your simile is misleading; time has flow, an inherent direction. It is not a placid lake amenable to "ripples in all directions."
An event has consequences moving forward in time. Causality does not go backwards (until you time-travel backwards -- but then only forward again, from whatever point you insert yourself).
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You misunderstand.. Time has flow, but if Harry is different from the Harry we know because of a poor choice, everyone he touches also is changed because of the way he affects them and what has happened because of his choice. The Murphy you know has been shaped by the Harry we know, she made her own choices because of him... If it is a different Harry, we won't see the same Murphy.. Now Michael, who is shaped by his devotion to God and being a Holy Knight would be perhaps constant, because his choices are shaped more by faith than Harry.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on April 19, 2025, 11:04:47 AM ---You misunderstand.. Time has flow, but if Harry is different from the Harry we know because of a poor choice, everyone he touches also is changed because of the way he affects them and what has happened because of his choice. The Murphy you know has been shaped by the Harry we know, she made her own choices because of him... If it is a different Harry, we won't see the same Murphy.. Now Michael, who is shaped by his devotion to God and being a Holy Knight would be perhaps constant, because his choices are shaped more by faith than Harry.
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Up until the moment of "the choice" in GP (and we don't know what that was) was identical.
Same people, same events, same impacts of the events upon the people.
SAME.
That includes Murphy being the same Murphy -- a strong person, a good cop, not corrupt.
Ripples forward in time, thereafter... yep, that's the entire premise!
Impacts on Murphy, undoubtedly.
But enough to turn Mirror!Murphy into a corrupt cop? I don't think so.
Lord Kinbote:
--- Quote from: g33k on April 19, 2025, 10:04:02 PM ---Ripples forward in time, thereafter... yep, that's the entire premise!
Impacts on Murphy, undoubtedly.
But enough to turn Mirror!Murphy into a corrupt cop? I don't think so.
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But maybe enough that Murphy ends up dead earlier than in the canon timeline. In canon, Murphy was better equipped to deal with the supernatural threats in Chicago because Harry brought her fully in, shared with her knowledge about the supernatural world and what was happening, protected her as best as he could and as she would allow, etc. while she did her job. Without Harry's help or the same level of protection, is she able to do her job and stay alive as long as she did in canon?
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