The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
What weird dynamic in the mirror verse do you want to see?
g33k:
--- Quote from: Con on March 08, 2025, 11:04:09 AM ---The one I'm most looking forward to is seeing what equivalent upgrades darkside Harry got that lets him take on the Winter Knight in a duel
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IIRC there's a WoJ saying that mirror!Harry is closely-allied with Mavra.
Suggests to me that he likely leaned-in on the necromancy.
--- Quote from: Nooneofconsequence on March 10, 2025, 06:23:57 PM --- If I recall correctly the "point of divergence" is supposed to be some event towards the end of Grave Peril.
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I'm pretty sure this is correct, yes; specifically, it's a choice Harry makes.
Exactly what choice Harry makes -- the critical divergence -- is, I think, an important issue.
Suppose he takes Bianca's deal -- having "cost" Bianca her playmate, he lets Bianca take the (already half-turned) Susan from him. Immediate consequence -- Susan is a fully-turned Rampire, and Harry's self-image is "I traded-away the woman I loved, to be safe." Note this choice is actually foreshadowed in the book: Jim wrote how hopeless and defeated Harry was feeling.
He didn't expect to win that fight; it was a last-ditch moment of inspiration to summon all the shades of the Rampire victims to get revenge (and a startlingly powerful act of necromancy, given how untrained / unpracticed Harry was; he's clearly a natural with necromancy!).
I'm sure many of us can project all sorts of futures from that divergence.
On the other hand, let's take the choice at the very end: after all the action's over, Harry tracks Susan to a beach. They talk; she leaves.
Suppose he didn't let her, argued/persuaded/cajoled, "let's just try, for a bit, you can always leave if it's not working," and half-Ramp Susan stayed in Chicago. But, without going down to Latin America, she likely never came to the attention of the Order of St Giles, never got their specialized half-Rampire training, etc. No Maggie Jr, no Red-Court Takedown at Chichen Itza. I bet the Reds won the war against the White Council; maybe (probably) a few WC wizards survived... they likely all hate Dresden's guts for starting the war.
Etc... I think I've seen at least half a dozen different "critical choices" proposed, with more or less convincing arguments.
Mira:
Or he allowed the Sword of Love to be broken by allowing the sacrifice to go forward.. A couple of things may have followed that, Susan would never have been half turned and her and Harry may have simply broken up over her forging of that invitation. He and Thomas might not have gotten together until later which might have changed several outcomes. He and Michael might not have remained friends because of what happened to the Sword of Love and Molly's fate might have been much different. Little Maggie might not have been born, so no show down at CI which ended with the demise of the Red Court.. Bianca might have lived and the Red Court may have won their war because without Bianca's death prematurely precipitating it, the Red Court would have had time to get ready to battle the White Council. ..
Actually the turn of events in Grave Peril are important because if they had gone another way, Harry as a star born could have turned out like the other two star borns we have met, Drakul and Listens.. That would be very significant and a cool way to reveal to Harry just what he is and what he is supposed to do, by showing him what he shouldn't do, why he is so important, and to be thankful he turned out the way he is and gives him a better sense of purpose for the rest of the series.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on March 12, 2025, 04:12:16 AM --- Or he allowed the Sword of Love to be broken by allowing the sacrifice to go forward ...
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I think that's too early.
IIRC, the WoJ says it's a choice Harry makes "near the end" of the book.
But I suppose how near to the end is always open to interpretation...
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on March 13, 2025, 01:48:55 AM ---
I think that's too early.
IIRC, the WoJ says it's a choice Harry makes "near the end" of the book.
But I suppose how near to the end is always open to interpretation...
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Yes, and what happens at the party is critical because that's when all hell breaks loose, Susan is taken, and Harry chooses to go and rescue her. All the rest flows from there.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on March 13, 2025, 12:21:38 PM ---Yes, and what happens at the party is critical because that's when all hell breaks loose, Susan is taken, and Harry chooses to go and rescue her. All the rest flows from there.
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I halfway expect Jim to write the choice as something that seems really really minor, from our current POV; not one of those obvious, high-drama moments.
I'm hoping he brings in Uriel (cosplaying as Clarence) to explain things; that likely won't happen until the very end (when he tells Harry to click his Ruby Slippers three times).
(yes, I'm crossing the streams pretty severely here)
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