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Mira:

--- Quote from: Talby16 on May 01, 2025, 02:03:35 AM ---I believe that it is established by WOJ that mantles fill from the bottom up. If the Queen dies the Lady becomes the new Queen and selects a new lady. Mab was the lady with Lea as her handmaiden when the previous Queen died and she ascended to the role. Based upon the Molly short story about her first mission where the mantle injures Carlos to protect Molly from having sex, I assume that being a virgin is part and parcel to being the Lady. That would rule Lara out for the Lady role. I believe part of the ascension to Queen is having sex with the purpose of having children thus breaking the virgin and maiden role of the Lady. I do not know if Lara could become the Queen either.

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Not sure of the details, but I agree.  Reading this I wonder if a Winter Knight is actually the father of Maeve and Sarissa? 

Talby16:

--- Quote from: Mira on May 01, 2025, 12:44:44 PM ---Not sure of the details, but I agree.  Reading this I wonder if a Winter Knight is actually the father of Maeve and Sarissa?

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We know that he was an Austrian Composer (if I recall correctly). Could be the Winter Knight.


--- Quote from: Talby16 on May 01, 2025, 02:03:35 AM --- Based upon the Molly short story about her first mission where the mantle injures Carlos to protect Molly from having sex, I assume that being a virgin is part and parcel to being the Lady. That would rule Lara out for the Lady role. I believe part of the ascension to Queen is having sex with the purpose of having children thus breaking the virgin and maiden role of the Lady. I do not know if Lara could become the Queen either.

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Sorry for the self quote, but I was thinking about my answer and I may need to correct myself. I cannot remember if the Winter Lady has to be a virgin or just has not had any kids yet. The mantle may be protecting the Lady from having sex to avoid having kids. If I have time I will try to hunt that WOJ down.

Mira:

--- Quote ---We know that he was an Austrian Composer (if I recall correctly). Could be the Winter Knight.

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No reason he couldn't be both, then again Mab may have had her children before she became Lady.

Talby16:
Here is the WOJ for the succession of mantles:

--- Quote ---if the Ladies become the Queen, what happens to the Mothers at that point? The thing is that the Mothers are kind of the foundation.  So, it’s not so much what happens to them because the little mantles changed. It’s what happens to the little mantles if the big mantles change. So, if someone whacks the being that is, for all intents and purposes, Baba Yaga, and then Mab succeeds, then Mab becomes the new Baba Yaga, and Molly gets drawn up to Mab, and they have to find someone else to become the new Lady. But on the other hand, the Mothers are extremely powerful beings (continued in the cosmology/mantle sub-section)
2009 Independence signing:
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Here is the WOJ for Maeve and Sarissa's Father:

--- Quote ---Can we get a break down of the biological relationships between the various Fae Queens we have seen on screen?
Of particular interest – Maeve and Sarissa, were they actually Mab’s kids (biological sense)? If so, who was Mab’s baby daddy?
Mab and Titania are actual twin sisters.
Maeve and Sarissa were twin sisters, from Mab. Their father was an Austrian composer and musician who died young.
2015 DragonCon
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Mr. Mouse:
Mab's baby daddy is Mozart.

And no, I'm not going to suggest that Salieri is Cowl.

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