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A crescendo of deliberate continuity errors
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: g33k on December 23, 2024, 02:31:50 AM ---I'm pretty sure it's going to be the reverse of that; things will be much worse in the Mirrorverse.
The book is particularly taking inspo from the old ST:TOS episode (where everything was worse).
The other thing I expect we'll see a lot of influence from is the old Jimmy Stewart movie It's a Wonderful Life, where the protag gets to see the alt-timeline if he hadn't been there just being himself, being a good person.
Susan _will_ be there... but maybe as a fully-turned Rampire? Not Harry's friend! No Maggie-Jr, ofc.
EvilHarry will be allied with Mavra.
Murphy will have spotted EvilHarry as a bad guy, and thus have zero trust for HarryPrime.
Michael won't have retired the way he did; he might be dead, he might just be much worse off -- loss and tragedy within his own family?
Worst of all, of course -- EvilHarry will wear a hat.
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If we've got to do the alternity story (I've commented before that I tend to dread those, though I've seen exceptional good ones), what I would want to see is that EvilHarry's other choices led to both good and evil outcomes that didn't happen here, and some good and evil outcomes that happened here didn't there.
The thing is that every choice has effects, which in turn cause more effects, and every choice has good and bad consequences stemming from it. I'll be disappointed if AlterHarry's choices led to either all-better or all-worse, because that's not not how choices work.
For an example from our time line: Harry's unwise decision (and it was unwise, from the POV of Harry at that time) to hang out with Red-infected Susan led to Maggie. That's good. It also led to Shiro's agonizing torture-murder. That's not good. Maggie's existence is good...but it also enabled Harry's enslavement to Mab. That's not good.
All choices produce multiple effects, even within a timeline, it's very rare for a choice to produce no good or no bad.
I'm sure the other time line will be worse overall, otherwise the story would be pointless. But there really should be both good and bad from whatever the decision was.
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: Dina on December 24, 2024, 04:01:27 PM ---This is so awesome! I laughed at the evil hat joke and I can't believe I never thought about Harry soulgazing himself. That is incredibly clever.
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That's an idea I never thought about! It's a good question, I'd love to see someone ask it of JB (if they haven't already somewhere). Would it even work?
For that matter, suppose someone broke the Fifth Law, and as a result a Wizard met up with himself or herself within one's own time line. Could you soulgaze yourself? That is, could, say, 50 year old Harry soulgaze 200 year old Harry?
Dina:
So many possibilities
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on January 05, 2025, 09:17:10 PM ---If we've got to do the alternity story (I've commented before that I tend to dread those, though I've seen exceptional good ones), what I would want to see is that EvilHarry's other choices led to both good and evil outcomes that didn't happen here, and some good and evil outcomes that happened here didn't there.
The thing is that every choice has effects, which in turn cause more effects, and every choice has good and bad consequences stemming from it. I'll be disappointed if AlterHarry's choices led to either all-better or all-worse, because that's not not how choices work.
For an example from our time line: Harry's unwise decision (and it was unwise, from the POV of Harry at that time) to hang out with Red-infected Susan led to Maggie. That's good. It also led to Shiro's agonizing torture-murder. That's not good. Maggie's existence is good...but it also enabled Harry's enslavement to Mab. That's not good.
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Well, some of keep thinking Maggie's existence is not good :D
Mira:
--- Quote ---If we've got to do the alternity story (I've commented before that I tend to dread those, though I've seen exceptional good ones), what I would want to see is that EvilHarry's other choices led to both good and evil outcomes that didn't happen here, and some good and evil outcomes that happened here didn't there.
The thing is that every choice has effects, which in turn cause more effects, and every choice has good and bad consequences stemming from it. I'll be disappointed if AlterHarry's choices led to either all-better or all-worse, because that's not not how choices work.
For an example from our time line: Harry's unwise decision (and it was unwise, from the POV of Harry at that time) to hang out with Red-infected Susan led to Maggie. That's good. It also led to Shiro's agonizing torture-murder. That's not good. Maggie's existence is good...but it also enabled Harry's enslavement to Mab. That's not good.
All choices produce multiple effects, even within a timeline, it's very rare for a choice to produce no good or no bad.
I'm sure the other time line will be worse overall, otherwise the story would be pointless. But there really should be both good and bad from whatever the decision was.
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I agree , I also think it gets very complicated, because sometimes a bad choice leading to evil, can end up leading to good because the results of the evil choice can force someone into making the ultimate right choice... ??? Yeah, I know but it is true.. I also think an alternate timeline with "Evil Harry" instead of "Good Harry" would be just too simplistic and leave most of us very unsatisfied.
Dina:
--- Quote from: Mira on January 06, 2025, 03:36:45 PM ---I agree , I also think it gets very complicated, because sometimes a bad choice leading to evil, can end up leading to good because the results of the evil choice can force someone into making the ultimate right choice... ??? Yeah, I know but it is true.. I also think an alternate timeline with "Evil Harry" instead of "Good Harry" would be just too simplistic and leave most of us very unsatisfied.
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You reminded me of "The Good Place" Mira. Such a brilliant show. In a moment they were discussing the statistics of the balance of every person life. It was pretty much impossible for a person to see all the consequences of every single action. And they were common people living ordinary lives. Imagine famous people, influentiall politics, kings and, if we had to extrapolate, powerful wizards.
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