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Warden of Demonreach: Dragoncon lore-dump or retcon??!?

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g33k:
OK, so there's this old WoJ:

--- Quote ---Q: Who was the Warden of Demonreach before Harry?
A: I know who it is, and who the guy before that was, but the guy before that was Kemmler....
--- End quote ---
So:
Now = Harry
Harry - 1 = ?
Harry - 2 = ?
Harry - 3 = Kemmler.

But now we have this (from the recent Dragoncon):

--- Quote ---Wardens of Demonreach?
Merlin, two since then, one of whom the WC doesn’t know about.
(Presumably not including Harry)

and (different transcriber, same Q&A session):

apart from Harry and OG Merlin, do we know any other Wardens?
There's been relatively few over the time since Merlin - only been 2 others and 1 the white council doesn't even know about...
--- End quote ---

It looks to me like either:
(a) those two answers are incompatible (the old WoJ vs. the new one from Dragoncon); Jim has retconned something
(b) there was a huge gap between Kemmler & Merlin (the OG, not the title)
Like this:
Now = Harry
Harry - 1 = ?
Harry - 2 = ?
Harry - 3 = Kemmler
<huge gap>
Harry - 4 = Merlin (the OG, Arthur guy)

Or, possibly, either Kemmler is much older than we thought, or Merlin lasted until much until more recently than we realized (or some of each).

We already know that deep-Nevernever can add centuries of mortal-world time (apparent "lifespan"); and maybe the Wardenship (see how I didn't use the "M" word, there?  I know some dislike the way the idea has spread) can add lifespan, too.

But even so look particularly at this bit:

--- Quote ---only been 2 others and 1 the white council doesn't even know about
--- End quote ---
That is only 3 people maximum (maybe only 2, one of whom the WC doesn't know about).  Leaving off our bookends (Harry & Merlin) those 3 are just these ones:
Harry - 1 = ?
Harry - 2 = ?
Harry - 3 = Kemmler
... Dafuq?
That's the entire list of Wardens who aren't Harry or Merlin??!?

One way or another, it looks like there's some discrepancies to be accounted for... or fannish thinking to be adjusted.

Or else Jim has changed his mind (or misunderstood timeframes and answered a different question than we think, or somesuch).

vincentric:
Unless Rashiid has taken the role multiple times, I can't see how there were this few.

Mira:


  Here is a thought, maybe a little out there, but we know Merlin built the place.  We know it is complex and if I remember correctly extends into more than one dimension and time.  So it isn't that Merlin lived extraordinarily long, but was able to be Warden in more than one dimension and time.

Con:
Might be Jim just forgot he had said that he had to think about it when he was asked on the dresden files podcast so maybe he just had to narrow down what he wanted.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 05, 2024, 02:47:02 AM ---
  Here is a thought, maybe a little out there, but we know Merlin built the place.  We know it is complex and if I remember correctly extends into more than one dimension and time.  So it isn't that Merlin lived extraordinarily long, but was able to be Warden in more than one dimension and time.

--- End quote ---

Merlin time-hopping is a possibility.
I wouldn't put anything past that dude, really.

And we already know that Rashid is several centuries older than typical wizard lifespan, presumably courtesy of deep-Nevernever time-dilation effects (which, really, is a pathway open to other wizards / other Wardens).

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