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Warden Survival Rate and Current Strength?

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g33k:

--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on August 05, 2024, 04:30:59 AM --- Comparing the Council to a nation-state is highly misleading ...
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You're absolutely correct.
My point was that the WC, as an organization, looks a lot more like a standing army; much more so than it resembles a nation.

Nevertheless, it also has things like meetings to vote, etc, that look kind of more like a civilian government than like a military.

Here's maybe a closer comparison:  some historic mercenary companies had IIRC a voting membership to whom the leaders were beholden, and to whom the leaders had to get a vote on key matters (or at least, this is a common fantasy trope (I'm only sure of a few historic exemplars)... but that's plenty for Jim to model from!).

Avernite:

--- Quote from: g33k on August 05, 2024, 10:22:57 PM ---You're absolutely correct.
My point was that the WC, as an organization, looks a lot more like a standing army; much more so than it resembles a nation.

Nevertheless, it also has things like meetings to vote, etc, that look kind of more like a civilian government than like a military.

Here's maybe a closer comparison:  some historic mercenary companies had IIRC a voting membership to whom the leaders were beholden, and to whom the leaders had to get a vote on key matters (or at least, this is a common fantasy trope (I'm only sure of a few historic exemplars)... but that's plenty for Jim to model from!).

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I'm thinking more a Knightly Order like the Templars or Hospitallers. But I'm coming up blank on Knights vs Members for those orders.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Avernite on August 28, 2024, 09:29:24 PM ---I'm thinking more a Knightly Order like the Templars or Hospitallers. But I'm coming up blank on Knights vs Members for those orders.
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The Hospitallers still exist.

There are about 40 "First Class" members, 600 "Second Class" members (mainly titled "Knights in Obedience") and 12,400 "Third Class" members.
(per Wikipedia, fwiw)

Avernite:

--- Quote from: g33k on August 29, 2024, 12:13:45 AM ---The Hospitallers still exist.

There are about 40 "First Class" members, 600 "Second Class" members (mainly titled "Knights in Obedience") and 12,400 "Third Class" members.
(per Wikipedia, fwiw)

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Sure, but it's not exactly a military society anymore. I wouldn't translate those numbers to '640 soldiers, 12400 hangers-on'. What I'm thinking to compare to is them circa siege of Malta, or even during the wars in the Levant.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Avernite on August 29, 2024, 10:45:50 AM ---Sure, but it's not exactly a military society anymore. I wouldn't translate those numbers to '640 soldiers, 12400 hangers-on'. What I'm thinking to compare to is them circa siege of Malta, or even during the wars in the Levant.
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I believe they act as combat medics; they own & operate a train-based mobile hospital.

I suspect that requires a comparable "tooth:tail" ratio.

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