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Did Mab fake out Harry... again?
g33k:
--- Quote from: Dina on July 24, 2024, 10:57:57 PM ---I do not remember Mab ordering Harry to kill Molly. Did she explicitly said that? In my mind she adviced Harry to do so.
This is super relevant because Mab ordering Harry to kill Molly would break the deal that made Harry the WK.
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You are correct of course...
I was careless in my OP wording!
(clearly, I'm unsuited to bargain with fae...) :o
(then again... realistically, so are we all)
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 22, 2024, 10:02:33 AM ---Um, since Harry has been battling a mantle of his own for a while here, I think he'd get it pretty quick. Also he has "personal" connections to Molly sans the mantle, so no, I doubt that aiding Molly wouldn't be on his priority list.
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Harry has been doing OK... well, OK-ish ... with his Mantle.
Vented a bit, to Murphy, but no real emotional-support network in his life.
Mostly holding his own... not given in to the Hot Fae Chicks that Mab has been dangling in front of him, no rapes, no murders, no major slides toward monstrousness.
Why would Molly need more?
Molly... from Harry's point of view, Molly has probably been thriving under the Ladymantle. Keeping her sense of "self," more-or-less. Got really happy to visit the 'rents, the way an alienated Winter Lady would not.
And Mr. Dresden is notoriously thick, when it comes to introspective / emotional issues.
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: g33k on July 25, 2024, 03:42:02 AM ---Harry has been doing OK... well, OK-ish ... with his Mantle.
Vented a bit, to Murphy, but no real emotional-support network in his life.
Mostly holding his own... not given in to the Hot Fae Chicks that Mab has been dangling in front of him, no rapes, no murders, no major slides toward monstrousness.
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He's not gone full Lloyd Slate, no. We still don't know how good or bad a person Lloyd was before he became Winter Knight, so it's kind of hard to judge how much of that was the mantle and how much was Lloyd being Lloyd.
But he did kill a sapient being pretty casually to make a point in Cold Days (at the grand ball). Granted, that's the Winter way...but still...
Dina:
--- Quote from: g33k on July 25, 2024, 01:01:38 AM ---You are correct of course...
I was careless in my OP wording!
(clearly, I'm unsuited to bargain with fae...) :o
(then again... realistically, so are we all)
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I actually think I may be...passable. At least, in my language. In English, perhaps not so much because I could miss a lot of nuances. But, for example, I've roleplayed here in the forums for years and I was careful not to allow my character a single lie (unless not a conscious one) but sometimes my character managed to hide things or even deceive people. Granted, it helped that my character was genuinely good, she always had a good reason for doing the hiding or deception. And when other people knows they are talking to a good people, they usually trust them. But still, it was a good practice. Other times I also roleplayed (in real life sessions) characters whe were legal, many times to the point not to lie. So I have some practice with wording. I do not know if it would be enough to deal with a fae in major things but I believe I could have some casual words without ending as a slave or something :) :) :)
Mira:
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on July 25, 2024, 05:03:47 AM ---He's not gone full Lloyd Slate, no. We still don't know how good or bad a person Lloyd was before he became Winter Knight, so it's kind of hard to judge how much of that was the mantle and how much was Lloyd being Lloyd.
But he did kill a sapient being pretty casually to make a point in Cold Days (at the grand ball). Granted, that's the Winter way...but still...
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The only thing I remember being said about Slate before he was Winter Knight was he was a drug addict. I also seem to remember that Maeve picked him, not Mab. Then it gets vague, at one point I believe Harry refers to Slate having a criminal past, which could be related to his addiction, but I also seem to recall Harry saying that Slate wasn't always a bad man before he became Knight. In short, Slate was a very weak candidate to begin with, and in the end fell victim to the addictive nature that the power boost of the mantle brings. Which from Maeve's twisted view point was just what she wanted, she liked having a Knight who got off on raping etc ya ya's that the mantle brought him.
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