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True Love as Defense against White Court Vampires
SerScot:
I’m re-reading Side Jobs and recently finished the Thomas Novella “Backup”. In it Thomas mentions that “True Love” is a defense against all Wamps. Then we have the short story “Love Hurts” where a Ramp is helping brew up a potion that helps facilitate “True Love” in mortals to make it more difficult for Wamps to feed.
Here’s my problem. This makes sense as a defense to Raith style Wamps who feed on lust which is a twisting of love. Why would it work on Skavis and Malvora types? Should genuine deeply felt “hope” defeat a Skavis’ desire to feed on Despair and genuine deeply held “faith” (in something) work to defeat a Malvora’s feeding on fear?
Clearly the three methods of Wamp feeding fear, despair, and lust were conceived as being oppositional to the three virtues of faith, hope, and love. Why would “true love” defeat all wamps?
Mira:
--- Quote from: SerScot on July 20, 2024, 03:51:56 PM ---I’m re-reading Side Jobs and recently finished the Thomas Novella “Backup”. In it Thomas mentions that “True Love” is a defense against all Wamps. Then we have the short story “Love Hurts” where a Ramp is helping brew up a potion that helps facilitate “True Love” in mortals to make it more difficult for Wamps to feed.
Here’s my problem. This makes sense as a defense to Raith style Wamps who feed on lust which is a twisting of love. Why would it work on Skavis and Malvora types? Should genuine deeply felt “hope” defeat a Skavis’ desire to feed on Despair and genuine deeply held “faith” (in something) work to defeat a Malvora’s feeding on fear?
Clearly the three methods of Wamp feeding fear, despair, and lust were conceived as being oppositional to the three virtues of faith, hope, and love. Why would “true love” defeat all wamps?
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Well, there is the saying that "love conquers all.." However if I remember correctly, but admittedly it is late and my brain if fuzzy and I don't want to dig through White Night right now, but true love didn't seem to protect Harry against Malvora, but it did later against Lara. So if I did get that right, true love doesn't protect against all vamps.
g33k:
--- Quote from: SerScot on July 20, 2024, 03:51:56 PM ---... In it Thomas mentions that “True Love” is a defense against all Wamps. Then we have the short story “Love Hurts” where a Ramp is helping brew up a potion that helps facilitate “True Love” in mortals to make it more difficult for Wamps to feed.
Here’s my problem. This makes sense as a defense to Raith style Wamps who feed on lust which is a twisting of love. Why would it work on Skavis and Malvora types? Should genuine deeply felt “hope” defeat a Skavis’ desire to feed on Despair and genuine deeply held “faith” (in something) work to defeat a Malvora’s feeding on fear?
Clearly the three methods of Wamp feeding fear, despair, and lust were conceived as being oppositional to the three virtues of faith, hope, and love. Why would “true love” defeat all wamps?
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I think it's two things -- #1, the Raith/Lust whampire is I think the overwhelmingly-most-common sort, & #2, a version of "unreliable narrator" where someone says "all" as a lazy version of "most" or as hyperbole or as a subtle dig at the others being in a "too small gory.to matter" category.
LordDresden2:
JB hasn't really given us enough data to say how it works with Malvora and Skavis. We have hints, but nothing definite, and some of what he's said seems a bit contradictory.
IIRC, he also once said that in theory, a WV could feed through the warm and fuzzy feeling you get when petting a kitten...but then he added that a WV that did that would probably sparkle. :lol: So I'm not sure how serious he was.
g33k:
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on July 22, 2024, 05:41:01 AM ---JB hasn't really given us enough data to say how it works with Malvora and Skavis. We have hints, but nothing definite, and some of what he's said seems a bit contradictory...
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:-)
"Well ack-chew-ly..."
--- Quote ---Q:“You’ve said that True Love (real True Love) only protects against WCVamps feeding on lust. What protects against the other WCVamps?”
A: It isn’t real complicated that way. The vamps who feed on fear get bad effects from real courage. Those who feed on despair choke on hope.
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