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We gotta talk about Margaret LeFay

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LordDresden2:
I wonder...with a nickname like Margaret le Fay, JB has said it was at least partly because she was so tight with the Fae, but it's also an obvious call-back to Arthurian legend, along with so many other names in the DF.

I wonder if Margaret ever possessed Morgan's infamous dagger, that has caused so much trouble in Harry's world?

g33k:

--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on August 08, 2024, 05:12:46 AM --- ... Nicodemus is still a human being ...
--- End quote ---
Nic is, yes.
Anduriel emphatically is not.

And we don't have a good sense of what the Fallen's limitations are -- and are not -- when they're working with a host.

A Fallen Shadow can achieve anything any human can, surpassing all the limitations of "average," but not actually exceeding human capability -- the Shadow is still working with the stuff of mortality.

A full-fledged KotBD can go beyond those limits...  they still do have limits, but we don't know what those are:  we're speculating there, beyond what canon firmly tells us.

It seems unlikely to me that the stuff we know about is all of it... I presume they have secrets they hold in reserve!
 

LordDresden2:

--- Quote from: g33k on August 15, 2024, 09:52:01 PM ---Nic is, yes.
Anduriel emphatically is not.
--- End quote ---

True, but the powers of the Fallen in the Coins is limited, that's part of the point of the Coins.  They have to work through human hosts, and that reduces their power substantially, and so yes, it matters that Nicodemus is human.

LordDresden2:
Another question that occurs to me about Margaret:  how much did Malcolm know?

A lot of the same considerations that apply to Harry in relationships with baseline mortals would also apply to Margaret.  She was only about a century old, in terms of her 'personal time', though we suspect she was closer to a century and a half in calendar terms.

Which means that (assuming she survived her numerous enemies), she could expect to live another 2 or 3 centuries when she married Malcolm.  Now in practice she had made so many enemies that her prospects for living even a few more years were decidedly dicey, but still.

I wonder how much Malcolm knew about the supernatural world, how much she told him.  I can't imagine that she hid her magical nature from him.  I hope she told Malcolm about her enemies, so he would know what he was getting into by marrying her.  (It's only fair to warn a prospective spouse about baggage, and Margaret McCoy was Miss Baggage 1970.)

It would be fascinating to know the details of how that played out.

Mira:

--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on August 16, 2024, 06:28:36 AM ---Another question that occurs to me about Margaret:  how much did Malcolm know?

A lot of the same considerations that apply to Harry in relationships with baseline mortals would also apply to Margaret.  She was only about a century old, in terms of her 'personal time', though we suspect she was closer to a century and a half in calendar terms.

Which means that (assuming she survived her numerous enemies), she could expect to live another 2 or 3 centuries when she married Malcolm.  Now in practice she had made so many enemies that her prospects for living even a few more years were decidedly dicey, but still.

I wonder how much Malcolm knew about the supernatural world, how much she told him.  I can't imagine that she hid her magical nature from him.  I hope she told Malcolm about her enemies, so he would know what he was getting into by marrying her.  (It's only fair to warn a prospective spouse about baggage, and Margaret McCoy was Miss Baggage 1970.)

It would be fascinating to know the details of how that played out.

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  I doubt that Malcolm knew everything, however I don't think he was totally ignorant about Margaret's world either.  I get the sense from Harry's soul gaze with Thomas when he talks with his mother, and his dream/vision of Malcolm when they talk, that the two of them did agree to conceive Harry for a reason.  However we still don't know what Malcolm was told so he would go along with it. Then again, Margaret could have told Malcolm everything, but how much would he be able to understand or believe?  You would think that Margaret would have run into the same problems that Harry did trying to explain his world to Susan and even Murphy.

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