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Is Harry a good mentor

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LordDresden2:

--- Quote from: Tinfoil hat on July 03, 2024, 01:34:19 PM ---Is Harry a good mentor
So I have been thinking about what makes a good mentor a lot lately. And like all things it got me thinking about the Dresden files.
Harry is shown to be a better mentor than Justin (fine it’s a low bar) . He’s kinder amongst other things( Again it’s a low bar).
So in Ghost story, Lea points out that he was too soft on Molly. Lea being Lea is a sociopath, Mab agrees with Lea that Harry is too soft on her. Mab being another sociopath. In Turncoat Morgan pointed out that He was being too soft on her. But Morgan is an ahole so we don’t think about it too much.
But the Sociopaths may have a point. If being a good mentor is about the results then Harry is a bad mentor. Molly under Harry was left scared after a battle and was not suited for battle in general. After one year with Lea she is a force of nature in Bombshells? Against the fomor.
Justin is a bastard but look at his 2 apprentices. One took is a badass, the other is slightly less badass.

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Yeah, and one is a badass and a functional human being because a surly old farmer in the Missouri Bootheel took him in and taught him  how to be a decent human being, (building on Malcolm's foundation), and even so Justin left scars.  The other almost-as-badass is a broken bird in some ways, gradually putting herself back together, not having had the benefit of Ebenezar and Malcolm to counter Justin's influence.

Kemmler was a mega-badass, too.  There's more to life than being a badass.

Mira:

--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on July 04, 2024, 05:10:37 AM ---Yeah, and one is a badass and a functional human being because a surly old farmer in the Missouri Bootheel took him in and taught him  how to be a decent human being, (building on Malcolm's foundation), and even so Justin left scars.  The other almost-as-badass is a broken bird in some ways, gradually putting herself back together, not having had the benefit of Ebenezar and Malcolm to counter Justin's influence.

Kemmler was a mega-badass, too.  There's more to life than being a badass.

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Molly did have the benefit of her parent's upbringing as well.  Yes, she rebelled, but deep down she could not escape what was ingrained in her from birth.  However having said that the danger for unmentored kids once they start down the dark path, is it is addictive and a slippery slope. The old "Dark side of the Force," type thing easier to do with quicker results, which leads to a rush of feeling powerful that is hard to give up.  Molly had good intentions as far as her friends go, and she also had good intentions when she went into Morgan's mind in  Turn Coat, looking for quick and easy for her answers because she had that kind of ability, not thinking of the repercussions for those around her, including Harry who would suffer the same fate if they decided to prosecute her.  Harry couldn't undo completely that part of her addiction.  That's what the Merlin tried to tell him when he was explaining why the White Council have gone mostly to a zero tolerance policy.  However it was that part of Molly that attracted Mab, Molly had crossed that line when she went into the minds of her friends.  In her mind the end justifies the means, much like Mab, herself.

Tinfoil hat:

--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on July 04, 2024, 05:10:37 AM ---Yeah, and one is a badass and a functional human being because a surly old farmer in the Missouri Bootheel took him in and taught him  how to be a decent human being, (building on Malcolm's foundation), and even so Justin left scars.  The other almost-as-badass is a broken bird in some ways, gradually putting herself back together, not having had the benefit of Ebenezar and Malcolm to counter Justin's influence.

Kemmler was a mega-badass, too.  There's more to life than being a badass.

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True but in the Dresden universe there is need for badasses now more than ever. In the grand scheme of things which is more important for Molly to be a broken badass who saves the world over and over again  at the low low cost of her soul and sanity or for her to be a mostly decent human being

Mira:

--- Quote from: Tinfoil hat on July 05, 2024, 10:34:00 AM ---True but in the Dresden universe there is need for badasses now more than ever. In the grand scheme of things which is more important for Molly to be a broken badass who saves the world over and over again  at the low low cost of her soul and sanity or for her to be a mostly decent human being

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The thing is for Molly as a Fae Lady now, it will cost her her soul as she becomes less and less human.  That is unless as a favor to her father, Heaven intervenes.

LostInTime:
Molly is holding out against the mantle. She's strong enough to stand up in defiance of Mab. That speaks well of her family, and Harry credits them for that in BG. But it also speaks to her mentor teaching her about the correct use of power. And that is a credit that Harry would never acknowledge.

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