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Is Harry a good mentor
vincentric:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 15, 2024, 08:59:38 PM --- Do the animals and reptiles and fish have souls? They all have bodies don't they?
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They never had human souls while Mab, Titania, Maeve and Sarissa started as full humans or changelings.
Mira:
--- Quote from: vincentric on July 16, 2024, 12:23:43 AM ---They never had human souls while Mab, Titania, Maeve and Sarissa started as full humans or changelings.
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However at some point they have to make a choice, they give up their humanity for immortality and power. Sarissa is a bit different as a changling, she clung to her humanity until the Lady's mantel was forced upon her.
vincentric:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 16, 2024, 10:12:11 AM ---However at some point they have to make a choice, they give up their humanity for immortality and power. Sarissa is a bit different as a changling, she clung to her humanity until the Lady's mantel was forced upon her.
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No, while they took on their mantles voluntarily or forcefully merged with them, they never had to choose giving up their humanity like a changeling's choice. It's just that the mantles continually try to exert control and the human has to control the excesses. Over time, a balance is reached.
Harry keeps tight rein over the Winter Knight, otherwise he'd spend a great deal of time at Arctis Tor "being entertained" in his apartments. Mab is pleased with Molly's work as Winter Lady but thinks she has too much emotion to be a good Queen. Molly worried herself to near panic avoiding her parents and siblings because she was mortified that they'd see her as a monster. Perhaps over time, the mantles will exert greater control, but the people are still in there.
Mira:
--- Quote ---No, while they took on their mantles voluntarily or forcefully merged with them, they never had to choose giving up their humanity like a changeling's choice. It's just that the mantles continually try to exert control and the human has to control the excesses. Over time, a balance is reached.
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Would you say that there is a "balance" between human mortal and Fae in either Mab or Titania? I also would say that over time, the "human" loses out.. We saw that in the case of Molly and Carlos, human Molly wanted to have sex, but the Lady's mantel won out and Carlos was torn up.
--- Quote ---Harry keeps tight rein over the Winter Knight, otherwise he'd spend a great deal of time at Arctis Tor "being entertained" in his apartments. Mab is pleased with Molly's work as Winter Lady but thinks she has too much emotion to be a good Queen. Molly worried herself to near panic avoiding her parents and siblings because she was mortified that they'd see her as a monster. Perhaps over time, the mantles will exert greater control, but the people are still in there.
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As I said, the Knight's mantel is a bit different, also Harry is one of a handful of mortals that has been able to keep the mantel under control, he goes to great lengths to do it too. Molly's fear isn't that her parents would see her as a monster, but their fear and her own fear of losing her soul because of what she has become.
vincentric:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 16, 2024, 02:29:39 PM ---Would you say that there is a "balance" between human mortal and Fae in either Mab or Titania? I also would say that over time, the "human" loses out.. We saw that in the case of Molly and Carlos, human Molly wanted to have sex, but the Lady's mantel won out and Carlos was torn up.
As I said, the Knight's mantel is a bit different, also Harry is one of a handful of mortals that has been able to keep the mantel under control, he goes to great lengths to do it too. Molly's fear isn't that her parents would see her as a monster, but their fear and her own fear of losing her soul because of what she has become.
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There is a balance in both Queens, but those balances don't have to be equal. They just have to be enough to allow them to do their jobs without going insane.
Mab and Titania have to let their mantles have prominence; their roles require levels of information management that our best supercomputers would be incapable of. Mab is linked to Winter, the way that Harry was to his followers in Battle Ground. She says as much when Harry asks her about the Banner. She's defending the bastion of reality 24/7/365 against an endless horde of Outsiders. It's more telling tat she actually has some time for small diversions.
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