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Mira:
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on May 11, 2024, 01:46:33 AM ---come to thunk it, that might be why he couldn't do the pocket full of sunshine after that specifically. He closed his aspect of happy light fire when he opened the floodgates of the metaphorical Man on Fire.
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Harry states I believe that after Susan was half turned and went away that he was never able to capture sunshine in a hanky again.
It has more to do with his own emotional state, which though he is more at peace now, the unhappiness remains, than any floodgates he opened.
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Mira on May 13, 2024, 02:24:12 PM --- Harry states I believe that after Susan was half turned and went away that he was never able to capture sunshine in a hanky again.
It has more to do with his own emotional state, which though he is more at peace now, the unhappiness remains, than any floodgates he opened.
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yoooi seriously, stip repeating exactly whf I just said likewise just didn't day it. Avoid me Mira. Periomd. Not to day
Your literally repeating me word for word. Look I get it, double empathy your allistic and just don't understand how I think. I understand you just fine though. Atop replying to me, you literally repeat exactly what I said, an then someone will reply to you instead of me.
Might take other people longer, but I always see. See?
g33k:
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on May 13, 2024, 04:38:33 PM ---yoooi seriously, stip repeating exactly whf I just said likewise just didn't day it...
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Except she wasn't just "repeating" it.
For one thing, you used a specific jargon term, "aspect" (his aspect of happy light fire) which (depending on who is reading, and how much they know of the "extended canon") might be taken specifically as a reference to game-mechanics from the Dresden Files Roleplaying Game, where "aspects" are a Really Big Deal, and only change at "milestone" events.
For another, she was explicitly disagreeing with you (more to do with his own emotional state... than any floodgates he opened).
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: g33k on May 13, 2024, 08:22:23 PM ---Except she wasn't just "repeating" it.
For one thing, you used a specific jargon term, "aspect" (his aspect of happy light fire) which (depending on who is reading, and how much they know of the "extended canon") might be taken specifically as a reference to game-mechanics from the Dresden Files Roleplaying Game, where "aspects" are a Really Big Deal, and only change at "milestone" events.
For another, she was explicitly disagreeing with you (more to do with his own emotional state... than any floodgates he opened).
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actually that's a Symantec trap pulled before. An considering your alway the co-conspirator.. 👀 you rallying to her defense is less than anything to me.
Let me break that down properly then...
--- Quote from: Mira on May 13, 2024, 02:24:12 PM --- Harry states I believe that after Susan was half turned and went away that he was never able to capture sunshine in a hanky again.
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so, after Susan was changed, an he unleashed his passion and outrage, he couldn't do the hanky? 🤔 most auspiciously what i said...
--- Quote ---It has more to do with his own emotional state, which though he is more at peace now, the unhappiness remains, than any floodgates he opened.
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the emotional state of a man on fire?
👏 yes. You prove my point most directly here. If you don't understand what I'm saying, ask. Because you also seem to think she disagreed. 👀 show me.
I've limited knowledge of the dfrp, my references were taken directly from the book. However, the game lore as I remember was so overlapping with the actual story they had to take things our so not to ruin future plots.
So thanks for bringing in the extracurricular evidence to back my theory 🙃 Harry's fire aspect changed because of how he used it. Intentions, even subconscious ones, color the magic used after all. An fire is directly related to sunlight aspect because it's all a flavor of summer as confirmed by hiding his blasting rod.
Maybe ask what a metaphorical man on fire is if you lack understanding of the concept off rip? Like hey, I didn't know that's the metaphor you gathered from Soul of the fire, Braveheart and other examples where the injustice of loss calls even the most broken men to war. Passion eh?
Mira:
--- Quote ---So thanks for bringing in the extracurricular evidence to back my theory 🙃 Harry's fire aspect changed because of how he used it. Intentions, even subconscious ones, color the magic used after all. An fire is directly related to sunlight aspect because it's all a flavor of summer as confirmed by hiding his blasting rod.
Maybe ask what a metaphorical man on fire is if you lack understanding of the concept off rip? Like hey, I didn't know that's the metaphor you gathered from Soul of the fire, Braveheart and other examples where the injustice of loss calls even the most broken men to war. Passion eh?
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Capturing sunshine in his hanky and then not being able to duplicate the feat had nothing to do with how he used the sunshine.
Checked Reddit according to it, Harry told Murphy that he could no longer capture sunshine in his hanky or I imagine in anything else, because one has to be truly happyto be able to. From the time that he lost Susan for the reasons stated until he had told Murphy that, Harry had never been truly happy so he couldn't do that feat again. Now perhaps if he had tried it for the short time he and Murphy were truly together, he might have, if he tried, but we will never know because as far as we know, he didn't try.... But it's possible he did, because you never know when Harry might need a little sunshine in a future book.
--- Quote ---so, after Susan was changed, an he unleashed his passion and outrage, he couldn't do the hanky? 🤔 most auspiciously what i said...
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Passion and outrage had nothing to do with it, Harry had all those things, along with true happiness when he captured that sunbeam. Harry truly loved Susan, that made him profoundly happy, truly happy, a truly happy person can catch a sunbeam, it is as simple as that.. When Harry lost Susan that feeling of true happiness left him, capturing a sunbeam became impossible.
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