The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Harry is a Dad...Again..😳
g33k:
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on June 28, 2024, 04:39:20 AM --- ... Nemesis would have to do more than make Thomas believe it, it would have to be able to produce the burn when a WV tries to feed, to maintain such a deception.
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This hardly seems insurmountable.
Nemesis is a Walker, one of the most-powerful of all Outsiders.
If Justine is Nemfected, it hardly seems outside Nemesis' power to create some burns when a whampire touches her.
Regenbogen:
--- Quote from: g33k on June 28, 2024, 09:06:40 PM ---This hardly seems insurmountable.
Nemesis is a Walker, one of the most-powerful of all Outsiders.
If Justine is Nemfected, it hardly seems outside Nemesis' power to create some burns when a whampire touches her.
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Exactly. Or to curse an object to cause burns whenever touched by a vampire.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Regenbogen on June 28, 2024, 08:19:56 PM --- ... With Margaret and Malcolm I think it is implied that they were protected from Lord Raith somehow, probably by true love, but again there is no clear evidence in the book. One can just assume ...
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I think Margaret probably had a very good idea what sorts of magical resources Papa Raith had available; whampire's I think can have minor magical gifts, but cannot be very-potent as wizards (not nearly at the White Council level!).
One of the things Harry has stressed (repeatedly) is: when a WC Wizard knows what they face, they can often prepare an overwhelming counter to that.
Add to that: Margaret LaFey may have had bargains in place to prevent being tracked; if not, she likely arranged them ASAP after leaving Papa Raith! And we know (from Turn Coat, where Morgan bargained with the fae for this) how the Fae can & will make somebody untraceable; I expect Lea (and certainly Mab!) can do the same as Morgan got from Summer.
Dina:
Michael has burnt vampires at the party that was Susan's downfall, but I think those were rampires. I do not remember anything about white. I believe Thomas and Michael avoid touched each other when they met. Nevertheless I have a feeling Michael-Charity is not True Love. Nor Malcolm-Margaret. I think (absolutely not proof, just my interpretation) that for True Love you have to give yourself completely to your partner. Charity hid a part of herself to Michael, her magical side. And Margaret, I think, hid even more from Malcolm.
About unrequited love, no, I believe that is not enough. Harry loved Luccio, but she did not love him back. And Harry was not protected.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Regenbogen on June 28, 2024, 08:19:56 PM ---I agree, I suppose this is true love.
But what I meant to say: there is no evidence in the books that for example Michael and Charity are protected. I mean they are already under protection of the angels.
Did Thomas ever go into their house? I can't remember. Did Thomas ever touch either of them? Maybe I'll put special emphasis on looking for those moments during my next reread.
With Margaret and Malcolm I think it is implied that they were protected from Lord Raith somehow, probably by true love, but again there is no clear evidence in the book. One can just assume.
Also no evidence with Gard and Hendricks. They loved each other, but was it really true love? Or just mutual attraction and admiration? Or just love love, not true love.
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As in where any of the above touched or the attempt to be fed upon? No, no proof of protection on page, but do you need that kind of proof of true love for the above mentioned? Like the Supreme Court Justice said about pornography, "he knew when he saw it.."
--- Quote ---Michael has burnt vampires at the party that was Susan's downfall, but I think those were rampires. I do not remember anything about white. I believe Thomas and Michael avoid touched each other when they met. Nevertheless I have a feeling Michael-Charity is not True Love. Nor Malcolm-Margaret. I think (absolutely not proof, just my interpretation) that for True Love you have to give yourself completely to your partner. Charity hid a part of herself to Michael, her magical side. And Margaret, I think, hid even more from Malcolm.
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I don't think Charity hid that from Michael, he loved her in spite of it, and she loved him so much she was able to give up magic all together. Something according to Langtree, especially once they've started down the dark magic path is almost impossible to do. Charity by her own admission had started down that dark path, only true love could do such a thing I think. Margaret knew leaving Raith for Malcolm would mean her death at some point, yet she did it and gave up her former ways, I also think true love had something to do with that.
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