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Mab Roade with the conquerer
Con:
Mab and Titania hadn't talked since Hastings in 1066.
So yeah that suggest William the Conquerer.
Other than the brief interaction with her at the end of BG.
Tinfoil hat:
In Old British law forvever meant before 1066. Like from a legal definition. Just wanted to share that bit of useless information. Thanks
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: g33k on April 03, 2024, 02:59:30 PM ---Before-and-after, for Merlin, is virtually impossible to determine from our information.
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it also occurs to me that we don't know if the original merlin... was originally named Merlin. Could be a late game identity (I've always thought so, mostly because I became a role)
Just linearly, he could have passed time in the NN.. do we know when the white council was actually created? I can't remember any hard evidence other than when Edinburgh was won, is anything before that simply conjecture based on the age of the oldest known wizard ie gatekeeper?
g33k:
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on April 05, 2024, 05:04:41 AM --- ... do we know when the white council was actually created? I can't remember any hard evidence other than when Edinburgh was won...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODOhEdiFwW0&t=1733s
"The origins of the WC were pretty nebulous... they were an advisory board to the Roman Senate for a long time"
But then Merlin reorganized them after the fall of Rome, for fear the powerful wizards (now ambitious independents) would war among themselves.
"for a long time" isn't terribly precise. We don't know if they coalesced after Rome demonstrated its hegemony in the region, or were an older group that attached itself to Rome, or were part of the founding (which would firmly place them around 750BC(ish))... q.v. "nebulous."
Similarly, "fall of Rome" is pretty indeterminate... a long slide from about 375AD to 475AD; so there's at least a century where Merlin might have reorganized the old Roman group into the new White Council (and whether that took just a year or two, or decades, or even a century... also unclear).
No idea if this is something Jim just hasn't decided, or if he's intentionally obscuring something (for a later Big Reveal), or what.
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: g33k on April 05, 2024, 07:52:02 PM ---https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODOhEdiFwW0&t=1733s
"The origins of the WC were pretty nebulous... they were an advisory board to the Roman Senate for a long time"
But then Merlin reorganized them after the fall of Rome, for fear the powerful wizards (now ambitious independents) would war among themselves.
"for a long time" isn't terribly precise. We don't know if they coalesced after Rome demonstrated its hegemony in the region, or were an older group that attached itself to Rome, or were part of the founding (which would firmly place them around 750BC(ish))... q.v. "nebulous."
Similarly, "fall of Rome" is pretty indeterminate... a long slide from about 375AD to 475AD; so there's at least a century where Merlin might have reorganized the old Roman group into the new White Council (and whether that took just a year or two, or decades, or even a century... also unclear).
No idea if this is something Jim just hasn't decided, or if he's intentionally obscuring something (for a later Big Reveal), or what.
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It's been a bit on this thread, but it might be relevant to note that Rome technically survived in the eastern empire for another thousand years. Now that's technical, because they considered themselves Roman but really weren't. They spoke Greek instead of Latin, they were Orthodox Christian rather than Catholic, etc.
Also...the White Court has its origins, apparently, in the Etruscan civilization that predated Roman control of what is now central Italy. Which might or might not be relevant to the formation of the Council, but it's interesting that they both have their roots in the same general area.
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